Question about an electron beam traveling through static B-fields

In summary, the conversation discusses the design and operation of an undulator device that uses alternating static magnetic fields to create a wave-like pattern for an electron beam. The radius of the beam in each magnetic field can be calculated, and the spacing between the magnets determines the period of the wave. The conversation also mentions the possibility of using electromagnets to shape the electric and magnetic fields and create different effects. The main advantage of the cyclotron setup is that it only requires one magnet, but alternating fields can also be used. The conversation also touches on the challenges of accurately replicating a sinusoidal path for the electron beam and the use of varying magnetic fields for this purpose.
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mesa
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In the figures below is a sketch of an electron beam entering alternating static magnetic fields perpendicular to that of the motion of an electron beam. This beam is injected from a 45° angle below the x-axis. Figure 1 is a representation of this and is supposed to be an illustration of a basic undulator from a synchrotron.

synchrotroncrossproductpage1_zps207b92dd.jpg


It would seem that the electron beam would behave in the same manner as in a cyclotron as it goes through each of the alternating magnetic fields with each bending the beam 90°. The radius in each magnetic field is easily calculated and this information can be used to figure out the length of this arc along the x axis. From here we simply add in the spacing between the magnets and get the λ for our beam in an undulator.

There would be some 'fringe' effect on the outer edges of each magnet (please make a correction if that is the wrong term for this application) but due to symmetry the bending of the beam would cancel out and therefore can be represented as linearly alternating beams 45° off the x-axis for calculating the period of the beams wave like pattern.

Is this correct?

*edit, after some thinking there are several approaches to setting up an undulator where the 'arc' is less than 90 degrees of a circle so this formula only applies to those that have an arc specifically of this degree. The formula will require a re-work to accommodate for differing arcs and using a period based on the length along x based of a set of alternating magnets.

*edit, and finally the formula for cyclotron radius is mv/qB not qv/mB, formula dyslexia...
 
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You can get all kinds of cute effects by carefully shaping electric and magnetic fields - yes.
The trick is getting the field ... oh, and finding an application.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
You can get all kinds of cute effects by carefully shaping electric and magnetic fields - yes.
The trick is getting the field ... oh, and finding an application.

It is a very interesting device. So since I have you here, it seems all forces act radially inward on the x/y plane of the electron beam so the tangential velocity at any point is the same as the initial ve beam as well correct?

Although we can get 'cute effects' trying to produce an accurate sketch of the Bf ind with an electron beam moving at near 'c' in a semi sinusoidal pattern in one of these devices is quite challenging (fun too!)
 
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Try the same setup, but with the uniform B field bits as squares, and injecting the electron beam perpendicular to one side. Make a step-pattern of alternating direction fields to keep it going.

You can get an actual sinusiodal path by varying the field strength continuously.

The main advantage of the cyclotron setup is that you only need one magnet.

Alternating fields like that can get you edge effects - the magnets need to be close together - they will attract each others field lines. Alternatively, use smaller magnets placed farther apart.

There's all sort of stuff you can do.
Enjoy.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Try the same setup, but with the uniform B field bits as squares, and injecting the electron beam perpendicular to one side. Make a step-pattern of alternating direction fields to keep it going.

You can get an actual sinusiodal path by varying the field strength continuously.

So something like this:
synchrotroncrossproductpage2_zps06888d01.jpg


So the field gets weaker by the edges at each transition of alternating magnets due to canceling of fields which are a gradient. There really wouldn't be a perfect arc but instead one that gradually tapers off as the field gets weaker as there is less acceleration radially inward because of this.

Doesn't this effect stretch our wave in the wrong direction if we are trying to mimic a sinusoidal path for the electron beam? or did I set this up incorrectly? or am I just looking at this wrong? :P
 
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mesa said:
So something like this:
[pic]That's the one :)

So the field gets weaker by the edges at each transition of alternating magnets due to canceling of fields which are a gradient. There really wouldn't be a perfect arc but instead one that gradually tapers off as the field gets weaker as there is less acceleration radially inward because of this.
It's just the same as yours from post #1 ... each arc is a quarter circle.

Doesn't this effect stretch our wave in the wrong direction if we are trying to mimic a sinusoidal path for the electron beam? or did I set this up incorrectly? or am I just looking at this wrong? :P
If you are trying to mimic a sine wave - yes of course it does. It's not a sine wave at all, just a series of quarter circles.

You can get an exact sine wave by varying the magnetic field continuously.
You can vary it in strips to get a close approximation.
The B strength determines the curvature of the path - so find the curvature of the sine wave you want to mimic and set the B fields to that function.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
[pic]That's the one :)

Very good. I would imagine setups for magnet placement are all over the map depending on application. Are there many designs incorporating elctromagnets?

Simon Bridge said:
It's just the same as yours from post #1 ... each arc is a quarter circle.

Let me make sure I understand this, there would be no reduction of the radially inward acceleration even with the opposing Bf of the magnet next to it?

Simon Bridge said:
If you are trying to mimic a sine wave - yes of course it does. It's not a sine wave at all, just a series of quarter circles.

You can get an exact sine wave by varying the magnetic field continuously.
You can vary it in strips to get a close approximation.
The B strength determines the curvature of the path - so find the curvature of the sine wave you want to mimic and set the B fields to that function.

Okay, I misread your earlier post, sorry about that.
These are interesting devices.
 

Related to Question about an electron beam traveling through static B-fields

1. What is an electron beam?

An electron beam is a stream of high-speed electrons that are generated by accelerating electrons through a high voltage potential difference.

2. What are static B-fields?

Static B-fields, also known as static magnetic fields, are magnetic fields that do not change in strength or direction over time. These fields are typically produced by permanent magnets or current-carrying wires.

3. How does an electron beam travel through static B-fields?

When an electron beam travels through a static B-field, it experiences a force perpendicular to both the direction of the beam and the direction of the magnetic field. This causes the beam to curve in a circular or helical path, depending on the strength of the magnetic field and the velocity of the electrons.

4. What are the applications of electron beams traveling through static B-fields?

Electron beams traveling through static B-fields have a wide range of applications, including in cathode ray tubes for televisions and computer monitors, electron microscopes, and particle accelerators used in medical and scientific research.

5. How does the strength of the B-field affect the path of the electron beam?

The strength of the B-field directly affects the curvature of the electron beam's path. A stronger B-field will result in a tighter curve, while a weaker B-field will result in a wider curve or even a straight path.

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