Prove the energy eigenstates are degenerate

In summary, the conversation discusses two observables that do not commute, but also commute with the Hamiltonian. This leads to the conclusion that the energy eigenstates are generally degenerate, with some exceptions. The example of the central-force problem is given, with the operators A1 and A2 representing the angular momentum along the z and x directions, respectively.
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Homework Statement



Two observables ##A_{1}## and ##A_{2}## which do not involve time explicitly, are known not to commute, ## [A_{1},A_{2}]\neq0, ##
yet we also know that ##A_{1}## and ##A_{2}## both commute with the Hamiltonian: ## [A_{1},H]=0\text{, }[A_{2},H]=0. ##
Prove that the energy eigenstates are, in general, degenerate. Are there exceptions? As an example, you may think of the central-force problem ##H=\textbf{p}^{2}/2m+V(r)##, with ##A_{1}\rightarrow L_{z}##, ##A_{2}\rightarrow L_{x}##.

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## [A_{1},A_{2}]\neq0, ##
## [A_{1},H]=0\text{, }[A_{2},H]=0. ##

The Attempt at a Solution



Please read my attached file. I type in latex. I really don't understand why I'm incorrect.

Thanks in advance!
 

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What do you know about the eigenstates of two operators that commute?
What do you know about the eigenstates of two operators that do not commute?
 
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Related to Prove the energy eigenstates are degenerate

1. What does it mean for energy eigenstates to be degenerate?

Degeneracy in energy eigenstates refers to the situation where multiple states have the same energy value. This means that these states are indistinguishable based on their energy levels alone.

2. How do we prove that energy eigenstates are degenerate?

To prove that energy eigenstates are degenerate, we must show that multiple states have the same energy value. This can be done through mathematical calculations or experimental evidence.

3. Why is degeneracy in energy eigenstates important?

Degeneracy in energy eigenstates has significant implications in quantum mechanics. It allows for different states to have the same energy, leading to phenomena such as superposition and the existence of multiple possible outcomes in a measurement.

4. Can energy eigenstates ever become non-degenerate?

Yes, energy eigenstates can become non-degenerate if there is a change in the system's parameters, such as an external force or a change in the potential energy. This can lead to a splitting of the degenerate energy levels.

5. Are energy eigenstates always degenerate?

No, energy eigenstates are not always degenerate. In some systems, the energy levels are distinct and non-degenerate. Degeneracy is a special case that occurs when multiple states have the same energy value.

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