Potential of ring with sphere inside it

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the potential of a grounded sphere located in the center of a charged ring with a larger radius and a specific charge density. The solution involves using the method of image charges, but there is confusion about how to apply it in this specific scenario. Ultimately, the correct solution involves setting the image ring's charge to -2/pi times the ratio of the sphere's radius to the ring's radius, and setting the image ring's radius to the square of the sphere's radius divided by the ring's radius.
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Homework Statement


Hi,

I'm trying to find the potential of conducting grounded sphere with radius Rs which located in the center of charged ring with Rr (>Rs) with charge density λ, h meters up to the z axis (see the attached images)


Rs=4.3[cm]
Rr=6.6[cm]
h=13.1[cm]
λ=1.0[esu/cm]

The answer should be 0.81023024

2. The attempt at a solution

The sphere potential is easy one -
[itex]\Phi ring=\frac{2\pi Rr\lambda}{\sqrt{z^2+Rr^2}}[/itex]
But how do I get the potential of the sphere?
I've tried to use the image charged method, but I can't get to the right answer.
Can somebody help me?

Thanks,
Adam
 

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adamp121 said:
I'm trying to find the potential of conducting grounded sphere
Doesn't sound too hard :wink:. Am I missing something?
 
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Can you give me some clue about the calculation of the sphere's potential?
 
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adamp121 said:
Can you give me some clue about the calculation of the sphere's potential?

I don't know how to calculate the sphere's potential but the problem can be easily done by method of image charges. Did you try that?
 
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Yes.

I know how to replace a grounded sphere near to a single particle, but don't know how to replace a grounded sphere with surrounded ring.
I have only the ring’s potential on the Z axis, and it makes it harder.
 
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adamp121 said:
I know how to replace a grounded sphere near to a single particle, but don't know how to replace a grounded sphere with surrounded ring.

Like a point charge, you can replace the grounded sphere with a ring here in this case.
 
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adamp121 said:
I've tried it also, where I set the image ring with charge -
[itex]q'=-2/pi\frac{Rs}{Rr}[/itex]
Do you mean ##\displaystyle q'=-\frac{R_s}{R_r}Q## where ##Q=\lambda \cdot 2\pi R_r##?

[itex]R'=\frac{Rs^2}{Rr}[/itex]
Correct!
 
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