Phasor Voltage and Voltage RMS value

In summary: V_{0}^{2}}{2}In summary, the difference between phasor voltage and the voltage RMS value is that phasor voltage is a representation of voltage that factors out the time-dependency, simplifying calculations, while the RMS value is the equivalent DC voltage that would generate the same amount of heat as an AC voltage over a given time period.
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What's the difference between the two?

RMS is divided by square root of 2?
 
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In short, it's used to easily calculate real power of AC circuits.

Power is: P = IV

if you use the rms values for current and voltage, then the power is the same as if I and V were DC instead of AC.
 
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theman408 said:
What's the difference between the two?

RMS is divided by square root of 2?

Only for a sine wave.
 
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Phasor voltage represents the instantaneous value of the voltage. For example in time t the voltage may have a value of 120V and one second later it may have a voltage of 50V.
The rms voltage is (let say) the ac voltage that is equivalent to the dc voltage. This is not very clear. Isn't it?
So, let explain it in another way. A famous example that always is given for explanation of the rms concept is the associated heat generated by a resistor due to the current flowing through it.
Let's apply an ac voltage to a resistor for one hour and measure the generated heat from the resistor. Afterward, we will aplly a dc voltage to the resistor that generate the same value of the heat and for the same time.
It is said that the ac voltage in this case has an rms value that is equal to the applied dc voltage.
 
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theman408 said:
What's the difference between [phasor voltage and the voltage RMS value]?

Voltage phasor
By using Euler's Formula, the voltage can be expressed as

[tex]V = V_{0} \:cos(\omega t + \phi)= Re[V_{0}\:e^{j(\omega t + \phi)}]=Re[V_{0}\:e^{j\phi}e^{j \omega t}]=Re[\bar{V}e^{j \omega t}][/tex]

where [tex]\bar{V}= V_{0}\:e^{j \phi}[/tex] is known as the phasor.

In effect you have factored out the time-dependency, and you're left with a representation (the phasor) of voltage that only deals with the static quantities of amplitude and phase angle of the cosine function. Being able to represent voltage this way simplifies a lot of calculations, e.g. addition of two sinusoidally time-varying functions (of the same frequency) is reduced from a trigonometric problem to a simple algebraic problem. To sneak back into the time-domain, you just shamelessly tack on the [tex]e^{j \omega t}[/tex] to your result. Good stuff!

RMS Value
If you combine the fact that 1) when dealing with ac power, you're usually interested in the average value of power during each cycle of the waveform, with 2) power is proportional to the voltage squared, you get

[tex]{V_{rms}}^2=\frac{V_{0}^{2}}{T}\int^{T}_{0}cos^{2}(\omega t) dt = \frac{V_{0}^{2}}{T}\int^{T}_{0}1+cos(2\:\omega t) dt = \frac{V_{0}^{2}}{2}[/tex]

Or

[tex]V_{rms}=\frac{V_{0}}{\sqrt{2}}[/tex]EDIT: For some reason I can't edit the tex code to correct the missing 1/2 factor. It's supposed to be

[tex]\frac{V_{0}^{2}}{T}\int^{T}_{0}\frac{1}{2}+\frac{cos(2\:\omega t)}{2}\:dt [/tex]
 
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Related to Phasor Voltage and Voltage RMS value

1. What is a phasor voltage?

A phasor voltage is a representation of an alternating current (AC) voltage in a complex number form. It takes into account both the magnitude and phase angle of the voltage.

2. How is phasor voltage different from regular voltage?

Regular voltage is a scalar quantity that only represents the magnitude of an AC voltage. Phasor voltage, on the other hand, is a vector quantity that includes both magnitude and phase angle information.

3. What is the significance of the phase angle in phasor voltage?

The phase angle in phasor voltage represents the time shift between the voltage and current waveforms in an AC circuit. It is important in determining the power factor and overall performance of the circuit.

4. What is the RMS value of a voltage?

The RMS (Root Mean Square) value of a voltage is the equivalent DC voltage that would produce the same amount of power as the AC voltage in a circuit. It takes into account both the magnitude and frequency of the voltage.

5. How is the RMS value of a voltage calculated?

The RMS value of a voltage can be calculated by taking the square root of the average of the squared values of the voltage over one cycle. This is also known as the "effective" value of the voltage.

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