Lagrange's method under external force

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of Lagrange's method to solve for coordinates related to masses and springs in a stationary box, as well as in a moving box with known acceleration and rotation rate. The answer is yes, as the equations of motion in a non-inertial frame can be used to compute the coordinates in this scenario, through the Non-Inertial Lagrangian formulation.
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Let us suppose that I have an isolated box which contains some masses connected with springs etc.

When this box is stationary in the inertial frame, I can use lagrange's method to solve all coordinates related with the masses and springs without any problem.

However, let us also suppose that I started to move this box such that one fixed point on the box has a known acceleration (a) and a known rotation rate (w).

Under this condition, is there anyway to use Lagrange's formulation to compute the coordinates of masses and springs inside the box as a function of (a) and (w)?
 
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The answer is yes. In this case, the coordinates of the masses and springs can be computed using the equations of motion in a non-inertial frame, which takes into account the acceleration and rotation rate of the fixed point on the box. The equations of motion in a non-inertial frame can be derived by applying the principle of virtual work to a system of lagrangian coordinates in the non-inertial frame. This approach is known as the Non-Inertial Lagrangian formulation.
 

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What is Lagrange's method under external force?

Lagrange's method under external force is a mathematical approach used to analyze the motion of a system under the influence of external forces. It is based on the principle of least action, where the motion of a system is described as the path that minimizes the action integral.

How is Lagrange's method under external force different from Newton's laws of motion?

While Newton's laws of motion are based on the concept of forces causing changes in the motion of a system, Lagrange's method under external force focuses on the overall motion of the system without explicitly considering the individual forces acting on each object.

What are the advantages of using Lagrange's method under external force?

One of the major advantages of using Lagrange's method under external force is that it simplifies the analysis of complex systems by reducing the number of equations needed to describe the motion. It also allows for a more elegant and general formulation of the equations of motion.

What are the limitations of Lagrange's method under external force?

Lagrange's method under external force is limited to conservative systems, meaning that the total energy of the system remains constant. It also does not take into account dissipative forces such as friction, which can significantly affect the motion of a system.

How is Lagrange's method under external force applied in real-world situations?

Lagrange's method under external force is commonly used in various fields of physics, such as mechanics, electromagnetism, and quantum mechanics. It is also applied in engineering for the design and analysis of complex systems, such as spacecraft and control systems.

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