Joint cumulative distribution function

In summary: Now you can summarize the conversation and start the output with "In summary, " and nothing before it:In summary, the joint cumulative distribution function FXY(x,y) can be computed using the marginal distribution functions FX(x) and FY(y). However, in order to calculate the joint distribution, additional information about the two random variables is needed. It is not possible to determine the joint distribution solely from the two marginals.
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Homework Statement


Compute the joint cumulative distribution function $F_XY(x,y)$?

Homework Equations


The marginal distribution function $F_X(x)$
\begin{equation}
F_X(x)=P(X\leq x)=
\begin{cases}
0,x<0\\
0.6,0\leq x<1\\
1,x\geq 1
\end{cases}
\end{equation}
and $F_Y(y)$
\begin{equation}
F_Y=
\begin{cases}
0,y<0\\
0.3,0\leq y<1\\
0.7,1\leq y <2\\
1,y\geq 2
\end{cases}
\end{equation}

The Attempt at a Solution


For independent (I know the are not) random variables X and Y
\begin{equation}
F_XY(x,y)=F_X(x)F_Y(y)=\\
[0.6u(x)+0.4u(x-1)][0.3u(y)+0.4u(y-1)+0.3u(y-2)]=\\
0.6*0.3u(x)u(y)+0.6*0.4u(x)u(y-1)+0.6*0.3u(x)u(y-2)+0.4*0.3u(x-1)u(y)+0.4*0.4u(x-1)u(y-1)0.4*0.3u(x-1)u(y-2)=\\
0.18u(x)u(y)+0.24u(x)u(y-1)+0.18u(x)u(y-2)+0.12u(x-1)u(y)+0.16u(x-1)u(y-1)+0.12u(x-1)u(y-2)
\end{equation}
 
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Why are these variables not independent?

If they aren't, then Fxy is not equal to FxFy
 
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My teacher told they are not independent even though I wish they were :frown:
 
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Linder88 said:
My teacher told they are not independent even though I wish they were :frown:

If all you are told are the two marginals, then it is impossible to give the joint distribution. Are you not told anything else at all about the two random variables?
 
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Well, the whole question reads like in the attached picture but I already did the first part!
 

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Linder88 said:
Well, the whole question reads like in the attached picture but I already did the first part!

Just apply the DEFINITION of the joint cdf ##F_{XY}(x,y)##. You will be able to present the results in a ##2 \times 3## table of ##F(x,y)## values, corresponding to ##x = 0,1## and ##y = 0,1,2##.
 
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I guess you mean
\begin{equation}
F_{XY}(x,y)=
\begin{cases}
(0.2+0.3+0.1)(0.2+0.1),x=0;y=0\\
(0.2+0.1+0.1)(0.3+0.1),x=1;y=1\\
0.2+0.1,y=2
\end{cases}
\end{equation}
 
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Linder88 said:
I guess you mean
\begin{equation}
F_{XY}(x,y)=
\begin{cases}
(0.2+0.3+0.1)(0.2+0.1),x=0;y=0\\
(0.2+0.1+0.1)(0.3+0.1),x=1;y=1\\
0.2+0.1,y=2
\end{cases}
\end{equation}

No, I do not mean that. For one thing, it is completely wrong.

Let me repeat my previous question: what is the DEFINITION of ##F_{XY}(x,y)##?

Expanded question: for a given pair ##(x,y)##, how would you compute that?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
No, I do not mean that. For one thing, it is completely wrong.

Let me repeat my previous question: what is the DEFINITION of ##F_{XY}(x,y)##?

Expanded question: for a given pair ##(x,y)##, how would you compute that?
I think i finally get it. For a given pair i would have that
$$
F_{XY}(x,y)=
\begin{cases}
0,x<0,y<0\\
0.2+0.1,0\leq x<1,0\leq y<1\\
0.2+0.1+0.3,0\leq x<1,1\leq y<2\\
0.2+0.1+0.3+0.1,1\leq x<2,1\leq y<2\\
0.2+0.1+0.3+0.1+0.2+0.1,1\leq x,2\leq y
\end{cases}
$$
or
$$
F_{XY}(x,y)=
\begin{cases}
0,x<0,y<0\\
0.3,0\leq x<1,0\leq y<1\\
0.6,0\leq x<1,1\leq y<2\\
0.7,1\leq x<2,1\leq y<2\\
1,1\leq x,2\leq y
\end{cases}
$$
Thanks.
 

Related to Joint cumulative distribution function

1. What is a joint cumulative distribution function (CDF)?

A joint cumulative distribution function is a mathematical function that describes the probability that two or more random variables will have a value less than or equal to a given value. It is often used to describe the relationship between two or more variables and can help predict the likelihood of certain outcomes.

2. How is a joint cumulative distribution function different from a regular cumulative distribution function?

A regular cumulative distribution function only describes the probability of one variable, whereas a joint cumulative distribution function describes the probability of multiple variables. It takes into account the relationship between the variables and their combined probabilities.

3. What are some common uses of joint cumulative distribution functions?

Joint cumulative distribution functions are commonly used in statistics, probability theory, and data analysis. They can help in predicting outcomes of complex systems, modeling relationships between variables, and identifying patterns in data.

4. How is a joint cumulative distribution function calculated?

To calculate a joint cumulative distribution function, the individual probabilities of each variable must be multiplied together. This gives the overall probability of all variables having a value less than or equal to a given value. The resulting function can then be graphed to show the relationship between the variables.

5. What are the limitations of using joint cumulative distribution functions?

Joint cumulative distribution functions can only be used for continuous variables, not discrete ones. They also assume that the variables are independent, which may not always be the case. Additionally, they can become very complex and difficult to interpret when dealing with more than two variables.

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