Is there a lack of science in our justice system

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of scientific evidence in a trial for robbery, the concept of free will, and the role of the justice system in determining responsibility. The idea of free will is still heavily debated and there is no definitive answer at this time. The conversation also touches on the limitations of discussing philosophy in a scientific context.
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So you are on trial for robbing a bank. the prosecuter has all this scientific evidence aginst you. Finger prints, DNA samples and a result from a lie detector test. All this science has been used to find you guilty, but then they sentence you on the basis you have free will when there is very little evidence and support in the science community for free will, so science has now gone out the window.

You have now been judge to have made a bad decision, you are immoral, a bad person, you are evil, society must have revenge against you.

It's like going to hospital because you are ill and they do a blood test, MRI biopsy then treat you with a exorcism.

So is it time the justice system accepts that free will is an illusion?
 
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Has any court ever sentenced people on the "basis that they have free will" while disregarding empirical evidence?

How do you suppose that legal systems would work without the fundamental assumption that people are inherently responsible for their acts?

And how could people be fairly tried if responsibility is thrown out of the window?
 
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A) Whether free will exists or not is an issue of philosophy, not science. We don't discuss philosophy here.

B) If there is no free will, society has no real choice in how to sentence you anyway, If we accept your premise, your argument becomes moot. (This is why we don't discuss philosophy here - we just aren't any good at it)
 
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NewToThis said:
So is it time the justice system accepts that free will is an illusion?

No, because there is no definitive answer at this time as to whether or not we have free will. There is simply no consensus either way, so your claim that there is little support for the idea of free will simply doesn't make sense. In addition, your post is mostly about the philosophical question of what to do with you if you don't have free will, which is not a science question, and we don't usually allow philosophical threads.

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Related to Is there a lack of science in our justice system

1. What impact does a lack of science have on the justice system?

A lack of science in the justice system can have a significant impact on the accuracy and fairness of verdicts. Without scientific evidence and analysis, wrongful convictions can occur, and guilty individuals can be set free. This can lead to a lack of trust in the justice system and a failure to provide justice for victims.

2. Are there any specific areas in the justice system where science is lacking?

Yes, there are several areas in the justice system where science is lacking. One example is in forensic evidence, where the use of unreliable or outdated techniques can lead to incorrect conclusions. Additionally, there is a lack of scientific training and understanding among lawyers and judges, which can impact the handling and interpretation of scientific evidence in court.

3. How can the justice system incorporate more science?

The justice system can incorporate more science by investing in research and training to improve the understanding and use of scientific evidence. This can also include implementing stricter standards for the use of scientific evidence in court and promoting collaboration between scientists and legal professionals.

4. What are the consequences of ignoring scientific evidence in the justice system?

Ignoring scientific evidence in the justice system can lead to wrongful convictions, a lack of justice for victims, and a perpetuation of systemic inequalities. It can also result in a waste of resources and time, as well as a loss of trust in the justice system.

5. How can we ensure a more science-based approach in the justice system?

Ensuring a more science-based approach in the justice system requires a multi-faceted approach. This can include promoting education and training on scientific evidence for legal professionals, increasing funding for scientific research, and implementing stricter standards for the use of scientific evidence in court. It also requires a willingness to acknowledge and correct past mistakes and a commitment to continuously improve and update practices based on scientific advancements.

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