Is the order of limits interchangeable?

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In summary, the identity $$\lim_A \lim_B = \lim_B \lim_A$$ is not always true. A simple counterexample is the function $x(m,n)$ defined in the conversation. However, there are general cases where it is true, such as in monotone convergence theorem, dominated convergence theorem, Fubini's theorem, and in power series. Real analysis is dedicated to finding when this identity holds true.
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In the sense most ample and general of limits, the following identitie is true:
$$\\ \lim_A \lim_B = \lim_B \lim_A$$
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No, it's not.
 
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Simple counterexample: consider the function ##x : \mathbb{N} \times \mathbb{N} \rightarrow \mathbb{N}## defined by
$$x(m,n) =
\begin{cases}
1 & \text{if }m > n \\
0 & \text{otherwise}
\end{cases}$$
For every ##m##, we have ##\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}x(m,n) = 0## and therefore ##\lim_{m \rightarrow \infty}\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}x(m,n) = 0##.

Similarly, for every ##n##, we have ##\lim_{m \rightarrow \infty}x(m,n) = 1##, and therefore ##\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \lim_{m \rightarrow \infty}x(m,n) = 1##.
 
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and exist general cases where ##\\ \lim_A \lim_B = \lim_B \lim_A## is true?
 
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and exist general cases where ##\\ \lim_A \lim_B = \lim_B \lim_A## is true?

Yes, and that's actually what a giant part of real analysis is about: finding when you can switch two limits.

Please see Knapp's "Basic Real Analysis". In the first chapter he already gives ##2## general situations where it's true.
Aside from that, there are many specialized situations where it is also true, these are incredibly important theorems. A small selection:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotone_convergence_theorem#Lebesgue.27s_monotone_convergence_theorem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominated_convergence_theorem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fubini's_theorem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_series#Differentiation_and_integration
 
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Related to Is the order of limits interchangeable?

1. What is the order of limits interchangeable?

The order of limits interchangeable is a mathematical concept that refers to the ability to change the order of taking limits without affecting the final result of a mathematical function. This means that the limit of a function can be calculated by taking the limit of each individual term before combining them, or by combining the terms and then taking the limit.

2. Why is the order of limits interchangeable?

The order of limits is interchangeable because of the properties of limits. In particular, the limit of a sum or difference is equal to the sum or difference of the limits, and the limit of a product is equal to the product of the limits. These properties allow us to manipulate the order of taking limits without changing the final result.

3. Are there any limitations to the order of limits being interchangeable?

Yes, there are some limitations to the order of limits being interchangeable. This concept only applies to functions where the individual limits and the combined limit exist. If any of these limits do not exist, then the order of limits is not interchangeable.

4. How is the order of limits interchangeable used in real-world applications?

The order of limits interchangeable is used in various fields of science and engineering, such as physics, chemistry, and economics. It allows us to simplify complex mathematical expressions and make calculations more efficient. For example, in physics, it is used to calculate the velocity and acceleration of an object by taking the limit of its position function.

5. Are there any alternative methods to calculating limits other than the order of limits being interchangeable?

Yes, there are other methods for calculating limits, such as using L'Hôpital's rule or the squeeze theorem. These methods are used when the limit of a function cannot be easily evaluated using the order of limits being interchangeable.

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