Is length contraction direction independent?

In summary: AC is shorter than AB but in A's "now" he is longer than B. So according to SR, A measures a length contraction in B's frame of reference.
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U is the universal rest frame. A and B space ships pass U at t=0, moving at v. Both experience equal length contraction in the x direction.
If length contraction is a result of em deformation in response to acceleration, then length expansion should be the response to deceleration. If the B ship slows to v=0 between t1 & t2, it should recover its original length.
According to SR, if B moves away from A, A should measure a length contraction of B.
So what happens?

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hi phyti! :smile:
phyti said:
If length contraction is a result of em deformation in response to acceleration …

length contraction is a result of the geometry of space, it has nothing to do with electromagnetism

also, the standard length contraction formula, √(1 - v2/c2), depends on relative speed, not acceleration

in A's frame of reference, U is moving away from A, B starts stationary, and from time t1 to time t2 it accelerates away from A until it reaches the same velocity as U, and B's length is contracted increasingly from time t1 to time t2
 
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phyti said:
U is the universal rest frame. A and B space ships pass U at t=0, moving at v. Both experience equal length contraction in the x direction.
If length contraction is a result of em deformation in response to acceleration, then length expansion should be the response to deceleration. If the B ship slows to v=0 between t1 & t2, it should recover its original length.
According to SR, if B moves away from A, A should measure a length contraction of B.
So what happens?

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Just like speed is frame dependent, so is length contraction. A ship will be traveling at different speeds in different frames. Since length contraction is a function of the speed of the object in a particular frame, whenever the ship changes its speed in one inertial frame, it will also change its speed in all other inertial frames. Whether that change in speed is considered an acceleration or deceleration is frame dependent. In those frames in which it is an acceleration, the length contraction will increase. In those frames in which it is a deceleration, the length contraction will decrease, or, as you say, there will be length expansion. In fact, a given change in speed in one frame can result in both an acceleration and a deceleration in another frame resulting in no net change in speed and no net change in length.
 
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phyti said:
According to SR, if B moves away from A, A should measure a length contraction of B.
So what happens?
Yes, A is measuring length contraction of B. And the catch is in relativity of simultaneity i.e. in A's "now" he is longer than B while in B's "now" he is shorter than B. This is best seen in spacetime diagrams. For example like this one:
minkprob.gif


Now compare length of AC (in "now" of moving object) and AB (in "now" of stationary observer).
 

Related to Is length contraction direction independent?

1. What is length contraction?

Length contraction, also known as Lorentz contraction, is a phenomenon in which an object's length appears shorter when it is moving at high speeds relative to an observer. This is a consequence of Einstein's theory of special relativity.

2. Is length contraction direction independent?

Yes, length contraction is direction independent, meaning that the amount of contraction experienced by an object does not depend on the direction in which it is moving. This is a fundamental principle of special relativity.

3. How does length contraction affect measurements?

Length contraction affects measurements by making objects appear shorter in the direction of motion. This can lead to discrepancies in measurements, especially at high speeds, and is taken into account in many scientific experiments and calculations.

4. Can length contraction be observed in everyday life?

No, length contraction is only noticeable at speeds close to the speed of light. In everyday life, objects are not moving at such high speeds, so the effects of length contraction are negligible.

5. Does length contraction apply to all objects?

Yes, length contraction applies to all objects, regardless of their size or mass. However, the amount of contraction experienced by an object is directly proportional to its velocity, so the effects may be more noticeable on larger or faster-moving objects.

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