If black holes don't exist then neither does the cosmic horizon?

In summary, Stephen Hawking argues that non-penetrable event horizons are not real. This also means that the cosmic event horizon, which is often compared to living inside a black hole, may not exist either. However, the concept of an "apparent" horizon still holds, where information from outside the visible Universe may enter for a short period of time. This means that nothing within the visible universe is ever lost without a trace.
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So according to Stephen Hawking, non-penetrable event horizons don't really exist.

So by the same argument the cosmic event horizon can't exist either right? Only an "apparent" horizon which may hold information from outside the visible Universe for a short while until it enters the visible Universe.

The cosmic event horizon is often described as like living "inside" a black hole. But since black holes don't exist any more then this also means that we are not cut off from the rest of the Universe by a cosmic event horizon?

Have I got that right? What do you think?
 
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I think the critical notion is that information is not lost when something crosses that horizon.
So anything that was ever within our visible universe has never been lost without a trace.
 
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I think the critical notion is that information is not lost when something crosses that horizon.
So anything that was ever within our visible universe has never been lost without a trace.
 
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Well that's good then. It's good to know that all those galaxys crossing the Cosmic Event Horizon are not lost forever! :)
 
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I can understand the confusion around the concept of black holes and cosmic horizons, as they are both complex and often misunderstood concepts. However, it is important to clarify some points.

Firstly, the existence of black holes is well-supported by observational evidence and theoretical models. While the exact nature of the event horizon may still be debated, the existence of black holes as extremely dense objects with strong gravitational pull is widely accepted in the scientific community.

Secondly, the cosmic event horizon, also known as the observable universe, is a different concept from the event horizon of a black hole. The cosmic event horizon is defined as the maximum distance from which light has had enough time to reach us since the beginning of the universe. This concept is based on the expansion of the universe and does not rely on the existence of black holes.

Therefore, even if the existence of black holes were to be questioned, it would not change our understanding of the cosmic event horizon. We would still be limited by the observable universe and our ability to gather information from beyond it.

In summary, while it is important to critically examine scientific theories and concepts, it is crucial to base our arguments on solid evidence and understanding. The existence of black holes and cosmic horizons are separate concepts and one does not rely on the other.
 

Related to If black holes don't exist then neither does the cosmic horizon?

1. What is the cosmic horizon?

The cosmic horizon is the boundary of the observable universe. It is the furthest distance from which light has had enough time to reach us since the beginning of the universe. Anything beyond this boundary is currently beyond our ability to observe.

2. How are black holes related to the cosmic horizon?

Black holes are not directly related to the cosmic horizon. However, the existence of black holes can affect our observations of the cosmic horizon. For example, if a black hole is in between us and an object at the cosmic horizon, the black hole's gravity may bend the light from the object, making it appear closer or further away than it actually is.

3. Why do some scientists argue that black holes don't exist?

Some scientists argue that black holes do not exist because the current understanding of gravity and the laws of physics break down at the singularity (the point of infinite density) of a black hole. This raises questions about the true nature of black holes and whether they actually exist or if there could be alternative explanations for observed astronomical phenomena.

4. How does the existence of black holes affect our understanding of the cosmic horizon?

If black holes do exist, they can affect the way we observe the cosmic horizon. Their gravitational pull can distort light and change our perception of distances, making it difficult to accurately measure the boundaries of the observable universe. Additionally, black holes can also play a role in the formation of galaxies and the expansion of the universe, which are important factors in our understanding of the cosmic horizon.

5. What evidence supports the existence of black holes?

Although there are debates about the true nature and existence of black holes, there is strong evidence supporting their existence. This includes observations of the effects of their gravity on surrounding matter, such as the movement of stars and gas clouds, as well as the detection of gravitational waves from merging black holes. Additionally, the recent image of a black hole's event horizon, captured by the Event Horizon Telescope, provides further evidence for their existence.

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