How does thermal stress affect the length of a constrained rod?

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Homework Statement
In a lecture of thermal stress my professor defined thermal strain as ' L α ΔT/ L = α ΔT ' [since strain= ΔL/L and ΔL after application of heat is L α ΔT].
He said that on a constrained body that's not allowed to expand , a force is applied on the body .
If the constraints were removed then the new length would be equal to ' L+ L α ΔT '
However while deriving the formula for thermal strain he used the length 'L' as original length .
My question is : "Shouldn't L(new) be used to derive the equation instead of length L , since the rod is compressed from this length by the walls/constraints not length L. "
Relevant Equations
ΔL= L α ΔT
ΔL = Change in length of the body
L= Original Length of the body
α= Thermal Coefficient og linear expansion
ΔT=Change in temperature
New length after change in temp, L(new) = L+L α ΔT
My attempt at deriving the equation:
Let a temperature a rod of length L constrained by walls on both ends be changed by ΔT.
So the change in lenghth of rod under no constraints = L α ΔT
Length of rod after change in temperature without walls =L+L α ΔT= L(1+L α ΔT)
However with constraints the rod is forced to length L
Then,

Thermal strain = ΔL/L(1+L α ΔT)
Thermal strain= L α ΔT/L(1+L α ΔT) = α ΔT/(1+L α ΔT)
 
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Physicsnb said:
Homework Statement: In a lecture of thermal stress my professor defined thermal strain as ' L α ΔT/ L = α ΔT ' [since strain= ΔL/L and ΔL after application of heat is L α ΔT].
He said that on a constrained body that's not allowed to expand , a force is applied on the body .
If the constraints were removed then the new length would be equal to ' L+ L α ΔT '
However while deriving the formula for thermal strain he used the length 'L' as original length .
My question is : "Shouldn't L(new) be used to derive the equation instead of length L , since the rod is compressed from this length by the walls/constraints not length L. "
Relevant Equations: ΔL= L α ΔT
ΔL = Change in length of the body
L= Original Length of the body
α= Thermal Coefficient og linear expansion
ΔT=Change in temperature
New length after change in temp, L(new) = L+L α ΔT

My attempt at deriving the equation:
Let a temperature a rod of length L constrained by walls on both ends be changed by ΔT.
So the change in lenghth of rod under no constraints = L α ΔT
Length of rod after change in temperature without walls =L+L α ΔT= L(1+L α ΔT)
However with constraints the rod is forced to length L
Then,

Thermal strain = ΔL/L(1+L α ΔT)
Thermal strain= L α ΔT/L(1+L α ΔT) = α ΔT/(1+L α ΔT)
It's a first order approximation to the differential equation (1) about ## L = L_o##:

$$ \frac{dL}{dT} = \alpha L \tag{1}$$

So we say that since ##L \gg \Delta L ##

$$ L \approx L_o + \left. \frac{dL}{dT}\right|_{L_o} \Delta T $$

$$ L \approx L_o + \alpha L_o \Delta T = L_o \left( 1 + \alpha \Delta T \right) $$
 
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Physicsnb said:
So the change in lenghth of rod under no constraints = L α ΔT
Length of rod after change in temperature without walls =L+L α ΔT= L(1+L α ΔT)
At the far right of the second line above, the ##L## inside the parentheses should not be there.

Physicsnb said:
However with constraints the rod is forced to length L
Then,

Thermal strain = ΔL/L(1+L α ΔT)
Thermal strain= L α ΔT/L(1+L α ΔT) = α ΔT/(1+L α ΔT)
OK, except for the ##L## inside the parentheses. So, your derivation gives for the thermal strain $$\text{Thermal strain} = \alpha \Delta T/(1+\alpha \Delta T)$$
Generally, ##\alpha \Delta T## is small compared to 1. In that case, the ##\alpha \Delta T## can be neglected in the denominator. So, to a good approximation $$\text{Thermal strain} = \alpha \Delta T$$ which is the same as what your professor gets. But, I think it's good to think about it the way you did.
 
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erobz said:
It's a first order approximation to the differential equation (1) about ## L = L_o##:

$$ \frac{dL}{dT} = \alpha L \tag{1}$$

So we say that since ##L \gg \Delta L ##

$$ L \approx L_o + \left. \frac{dL}{dT}\right|_{L_o} \Delta T $$

$$ L \approx L_o + \alpha L_o \Delta T = L_o \left( 1 + \alpha \Delta T \right) $$
Whats L_o? Also , my question was that why is strain =α Δ T .
Also can you please elaborate your derivation a bit more (specifically the second step)
 
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TSny said:
At the far right of the second line above, the ##L## inside the parentheses should not be there.OK, except for the ##L## inside the parentheses. So, your derivation gives for the thermal strain $$\text{Thermal strain} = \alpha \Delta T/(1+\alpha \Delta T)$$
Generally, ##\alpha \Delta T## is small compared to 1. In that case, the ##\alpha \Delta T## can be neglected in the denominator. So, to a good approximation $$\text{Thermal strain} = \alpha \Delta T$$ which is the same as what your professor gets. But, I think it's good to think about it the way you did.
Thanks for your explanation .
 
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Physicsnb said:
Whats L_o? Also , my question was that why is strain =
α
Δ T .
##L_o## is the initial length of the body.

The strain is ## \epsilon = \frac{ \Delta L}{ L_o}##

$$ \epsilon = \frac{L - L_o}{L_o} = \frac{L_o( 1 + \alpha \Delta T ) - L_o}{ L_o} = \alpha \Delta T $$
 
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erobz said:
##L_o## is the initial length of the body.

The strain is ## \epsilon = \frac{ \Delta L}{ L_o}##

$$ \epsilon = \frac{L - L_o}{L_o} = \frac{L_o( 1 + \alpha \Delta T ) - L_o}{ L_o} = \alpha \Delta T $$
So ,
What's L here? New length?
 
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Physicsnb said:
So ,
What's L here? New length?
It's the length of the freely expanded body when thermal equilibrium has been reached.
 
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erobz said:
##L_o## is the initial length of the body.

The strain is ## \epsilon = \frac{ \Delta L}{ L_o}
erobz said:
It's a first order approximation to the differential equation (1) about ## L = L_o##:

$$ \frac{dL}{dT} = \alpha L \tag{1}$$

So we say that since ##L \gg \Delta L ##

$$ L \approx L_o + \left. \frac{dL}{dT}\right|_{L_o} \Delta T $$

$$ L \approx L_o + \alpha L_o \Delta T = L_o \left( 1 + \alpha \Delta T \right) $$
Could you please elaborate how you got to second step?

erobz said:
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erobz said:
It's a first order approximation to the differential equation (1) about ## L = L_o##:

$$ \frac{dL}{dT} = \alpha L \tag{1}$$

So we say that since ##L \gg \Delta L ##

$$ L \approx L_o + \left. \frac{dL}{dT}\right|_{L_o} \Delta T $$

$$ L \approx L_o + \alpha L_o \Delta T = L_o \left( 1 + \alpha \Delta T \right) $$
Could you please explain how you got to the send equation?
 
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Physicsnb said:
Could you please explain how you got to the send equation?
It's a first order Taylor Expansion about the fixed length ##L_o##. A Taylor Expansion is an approximation of a function about a given point over some interval.

That second step is the length function (which would be found by integrating (1) ) truncated to the linear terms of the expansion.

So the first term is what we expect with no change in temp. Its just ##L_o##. Then we extend it by saying over some change in temp## \Delta T##, that ##L## approximately changes like the ## \frac{dL}{dT}|_{L_o} \Delta T = \alpha L_o \Delta T ##
 
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You are working with small (linearized) strain theory. At this level of approximation, ##\alpha \Delta T## is negligible compared to unity. So the thermal strain is ##\alpha \Delta T## and the superimposed compressive strain is ##\sigma /E##, where E is Young's modulus and ##\sigma## is the compressive stress..
 
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