How do we know gravity is not just a large scaled electromagnetic force?

In summary, gravity is not dependent on electric charge or magnetic polarity and can exist independently of them. Objects with different charge ratios do not fall at different rates and general relativity still holds true. While Heim Theory suggests that gravity can be counteracted by electromagnetism, this does not mean that gravity is an electromagnetic force. Electrical circuits have been found in unexpected places, such as between Saturn's Northern Pole and Enceladus, but this does not indicate that gravity is an electromagnetic force.
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I mean, you can only start to see the effects of gravity when a large amount of matter is in one place. What if all the electric or magnetic fields in every single atom of that planet or star or black hole, ect... combine into one large field, big enough to create what we know as gravity?
 
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Gravity is independent of electric charge or magnetic polarity. This means that you can have a mass with 0 electric charge, but still have a large gravitational force. If you have the same mass of 100% charged particles, the gravitational force will be the same as the mass with 0 charged particles.
 
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- If Earth would have a significant total charge, the "gravitational attraction" would depend on the charge of objects. It does not. In particular, ions with opposite charge should feel an opposite force - which is wrong.

- Contact two metallic objects. They are now uncharged or have the same type of charge (-> repulsive force). They will attract due to gravity.

- Earth and moon attract each other. If this would come from an electric charge, they would have opposite charge. In the same way, sun and Earth would need opposite charge, therefore moon and sun would have the same charge and a repulsive force between them. This is wrong, their force is attractive, too. You can do the same as lab experiment with 3 objects.And if you propose some new force just depending on the total amount of charges (which was actually discussed at some point in the past, but did not work):
- Objects with a different (total charge)/(total mass) ratio would fall with a different acceleration. They do not.
- General relativity would not work in this way. You would not get the same deflection / red shift of light and so on.
 
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According to Heim Theory, gravity can be counteracted by electromagnetic means. That does not, however, mean that gravity is an electromagnetic force.

Electrical circuits are found in relatively strange places, such as the one between Saturn's Northern Pole and Enceladus. That is also found in conjunction with a magnetic field.

So, in answer to your question, as far as we know, gravity is not an electromagnetic force.
 
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I can assure you that the concept of gravity is well-established through numerous experiments and observations. It is a fundamental force of nature that is responsible for the attraction between objects with mass. While it is true that gravity is only noticeable on a large scale, this does not mean that it is simply a manifestation of electromagnetic forces.

Firstly, the behavior of gravity is distinct from that of electromagnetic forces. Gravity is a universal force that acts on all objects with mass, whereas electromagnetic forces are only present between charged particles. Additionally, gravity follows the inverse-square law, meaning that its strength decreases with distance, while electromagnetic forces follow the inverse-square law only at close distances and then weaken significantly.

Furthermore, the existence of gravity has been confirmed through precise measurements and calculations. For example, the orbit of planets around the sun can be accurately predicted using the laws of gravity, and the bending of light by massive objects has been observed and confirmed to be caused by gravity.

Moreover, the concept of a unified electromagnetic field that creates the effects of gravity is not supported by any evidence. In fact, the theories of electromagnetism and gravity are distinct and do not merge into one another. Attempts to unify these forces, such as Einstein's theory of general relativity, have been extensively tested and confirmed to be accurate in predicting the behavior of gravity.

In summary, while it is important to question and explore different ideas, the evidence overwhelmingly supports the existence of gravity as a fundamental force of nature, rather than a large-scale manifestation of electromagnetic forces.
 

Related to How do we know gravity is not just a large scaled electromagnetic force?

What is gravity and how is it different from electromagnetism?

Gravity is a fundamental force of nature that causes objects with mass to be attracted to one another. On the other hand, electromagnetism is a force that is created by the interaction of electrically charged particles. While both forces can act on objects, gravity is primarily responsible for the motion of large-scale objects, such as planets, while electromagnetism is responsible for the interactions between smaller particles, such as electrons.

How do we know that gravity is not just a large scaled electromagnetic force?

Scientists have extensively studied both gravity and electromagnetism and have found that they have distinct properties and behaviors. For example, gravity is a long-range force that affects all objects with mass, while electromagnetism has a limited range and only affects objects with an electric charge. Additionally, the equations that describe the two forces are different and cannot be combined into a single equation, further supporting the idea that they are separate forces.

Are there any experiments that have been conducted to test the idea that gravity is an electromagnetic force?

Yes, there have been several experiments conducted to test the relationship between gravity and electromagnetism. One famous example is the Eötvös experiment, which compared the acceleration of objects with different masses and charges. The results of this and other experiments have consistently shown that gravity and electromagnetism are distinct forces.

Could gravity be a manifestation of electromagnetic forces at a larger scale?

While it is always possible that our current understanding of gravity may be revised in the future, there is currently no evidence to suggest that gravity is simply a large-scale manifestation of electromagnetic forces. In fact, the theory of general relativity, which describes gravity, has been extensively tested and has been shown to accurately predict the behavior of massive objects.

What other evidence supports the idea that gravity is a distinct force from electromagnetism?

In addition to experimental evidence, there are also other observations that support the idea that gravity and electromagnetism are separate forces. For example, the behavior of gravitational waves, which are ripples in the fabric of space-time, is very different from the behavior of electromagnetic waves. Furthermore, the behavior of objects in the presence of strong gravitational fields, such as near black holes, cannot be explained solely by electromagnetic forces.

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