How Accurate Are the Bounds for Eigenvalues in Circulant Matrices?

In summary, we discussed an equation involving the eigenvalues of a circulant matrix and two possible bounds for it. The first bound, stating that the arithmetic mean bounds the geometric mean, is true. However, the second bound, stating that the sum of inverse squares is less than the inverse of the sum, is false. We also briefly mentioned an identity for the trace, but it is unclear if it only holds for positive integers.
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Hi,

I have the following equation:

[tex]\gamma=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{N}\sum_{n=1}^N|\lambda_n|^{-2}}[/tex]

where lambdas are the eigenvalues of an N-by-N circulant matrix A.

I used two properties to bound the above equation:

[tex]\frac{1}{N}\sum_{n=1}^N|\lambda_n|^{-2}\geq\left(\prod_{n=1}^N|\lambda_n|^{-2}\right)^{1/N}[/tex]

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^N|\lambda_n|^{-2}\leq\left(\sum_{n=1}^N|\lambda_n|^{2}\right)^{-1}[/tex]

Are these two bounds correct?

Thanks
 
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The first one is a a statement that the arithmetic mean bounds the geometric mean (true).

The second is false - simple example: 2 terms on the left 1 + 2 = 3. Right side is 1/(1+1/2) = 2/3.
 
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mathman said:
The first one is a a statement that the arithmetic mean bounds the geometric mean (true).

The second is false - simple example: 2 terms on the left 1 + 2 = 3. Right side is 1/(1+1/2) = 2/3.

But we have the identity for the trace that:

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^N\lambda_n^k=\text{Tr}\left(\mathbf{A}^k\right)\leq\left[\text{Tr}\left(\mathbf{A}\right)\right]^k=\left(\sum_{n=1}^N\lambda_n\right)^k[/tex]

or it just works for k>=1?
 
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I am not familiar with the trace equation, but as my example shows, what you propose is just wrong. It may be that your guess is correct, k is positive integer.
 
  • #5
for your question. It appears that the bounds you have used are correct based on the properties of arithmetic and geometric mean. The first bound uses the property that the arithmetic mean is always greater than or equal to the geometric mean, while the second bound uses the property that the sum of squares is always greater than or equal to the square of the sum. These properties can be applied to the equation you have provided to bound the value of \gamma. However, it is always important to double check your calculations and make sure they are appropriate for the specific problem at hand.
 

Related to How Accurate Are the Bounds for Eigenvalues in Circulant Matrices?

What is the difference between arithmetic and geometric mean?

The arithmetic mean is the sum of a set of numbers divided by the number of numbers in the set. The geometric mean is the nth root of the product of n numbers. In simpler terms, arithmetic mean is the average while geometric mean is the "middle" value when numbers are multiplied together.

What is the purpose of using arithmetic and geometric mean?

Arithmetic mean is commonly used to find the "average" of a set of numbers, which can be useful for analyzing data. Geometric mean is often used in financial calculations, such as determining the average growth rate of an investment.

How do you calculate the arithmetic and geometric mean?

To calculate the arithmetic mean, add all the numbers in the set and then divide by the number of numbers in the set. To calculate the geometric mean, multiply all the numbers in the set and then take the nth root of the product, where n is the number of numbers in the set.

Can arithmetic and geometric mean be used for any set of numbers?

Arithmetic mean can be used for any set of numbers, but geometric mean can only be used for positive numbers. Additionally, both means are more accurate when used with symmetric data (equal number of values above and below the mean).

What are the main differences between arithmetic and geometric mean?

The main difference is in how they are calculated and what they represent. Arithmetic mean is the average, while geometric mean represents the "middle" value in a set of numbers when multiplied together. Another difference is that arithmetic mean can be used with any set of numbers, while geometric mean is limited to positive numbers and symmetric data.

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