Having trouble finding the tension of this Newton law problem

In summary, the problem involves two blocks on a ramp and a horizontal plane. The mass of block A is 4.5 kg and it is sliding down the ramp while block B has a mass of 2.2 kg. The coefficient of kinetic friction between block B and the horizontal plane is 0.50. The inclined plane is frictionless and at an angle of 30°. The goal is to find the tension in the system. The equations involved are: Ma(g)sin theta-f(a)=ma a and T=ma g sin theta- fa-ma a. However, the correct answer may not be obtained if the equations are not set up correctly.
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Block A in the figure below has mass mA = 4.5 kg and is sliding down the ramp. Block B has mass mB = 2.2 kg. The coefficient of kinetic friction between block B and the horizontal plane is 0.50. The inclined plane is frictionless and at angle 30°.

part a is to find the tension

the equation I have is Ma(g)sin theta-f(a)=ma a
i also found fa of to be 19.096, which I used [itex]\mu[/itex]k mag cos theta

I found the b part which was to find the acceleration: 1.68 m/s^2

using my first equation for tension i keep getting t=13.99
webassign does not like that answer and I can't figure out what I am doing wrong

thanks for any help you guys can give me
 
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  • #2
From the problem description only one of the blocks is on the slope, the other is on a horizontal surface. So I'm not seeing the reason for you're use of the cosine function when you calculate the frictional force.

You should be able to arrive at two expressions relating the tension and acceleration by analyzing the Free Body Diagrams of the two blocks.
 
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if use sin to find Fa it gives me 11.025 which makes the tension equal 3.56 which is also wrong.
maybe I am not writing the equation right.

I am getting Tension to be T=ma g sin theta- fa-ma a

which I am getting 4.5(9.8)sin 30-19.096-(4.5)(9.8) which = 13.99

am I setting the equation wrong??
 
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You should be getting two equations for the tension, one for each block, from their FBD's. These equations will each have two unknowns: the tension and the acceleration. From them a single equation for the tension can be assembled (by substituting the acceleration from one into the other).

Can you write the two equations from the FBD's?
 
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Hi there,

It seems like you are on the right track with your equations and calculations. However, it's possible that there may be a small error in your calculations or units. Here are a few things to double check:

1. Make sure all your units are consistent. For example, if you are using the coefficient of kinetic friction, make sure the mass and acceleration are also in the correct units (usually kilograms and meters per second squared, respectively).

2. Check your calculations for the friction force (fa). It should be equal to the coefficient of kinetic friction (0.50) multiplied by the normal force (which is equal to the weight of block B, mB*g) in this case. Make sure you are using the correct angle (30 degrees) when calculating the normal force.

3. Make sure you are using the correct equation for tension. It should be T = mA*a + mB*g*sin(theta) - fa, where a is the acceleration you calculated (1.68 m/s^2) and fa is the friction force you calculated in step 2.

If you are still having trouble, I would recommend checking your work with a classmate or asking your professor for assistance. Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can catch an error that we may have overlooked. Good luck!
 

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