Four bodies connected through a sheave

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In summary, the conversation discusses a system of three bodies connected by a string and a sheave, moving to the right. The second Newton's law is applied to the movement of the objects, with the equations m4a= m4g-T, m1a= T, m2a= T, and m3a= T. However, since the string has masses attached to it, the tension is not the same throughout and the book's equation, a(m1+m2+m3)=T, must be used instead. The idea of tension can still be used, but the tension between each body and the next is different.
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Homework Statement


Three bodies with masses m1 m2 and m3 connected with a string through a sheave with a body with mass m4. The system is moving right. Write the second Newton law for the movement of the objects. Ignore friction.

Homework Equations


2nd law for bodies:
m4a= m4g-T(the force of stretching the string)
m1a= T
m2a= T
m3a= T

The Attempt at a Solution


By summing up the last three equation I got:
a(m1+m2+m3)=3T but it is apparently incorrect. The book equation is:
a(m1+m2+m3)=T, how? Where am I wrong at?
 

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You want to ask yourself if T is really the same in the various sections.
 
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Could you elaborate please?
 
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Chemist@ said:
Could you elaborate please?

I believe what BvU is alluding to is that you are assuming that all sections of the string have the same tension.

Chemist@ said:

Homework Equations


2nd law for bodies:
m4a= m4g-T(the force of stretching the string)
m1a= T
m2a= T
m3a= T

While that is often true for a massless string when ignoring friction, it doesn't apply here because the string has masses attached to it. In other words, the tension of the string between bodies m1 and m2 is a different value than the tension between bodies m2 and m3 and so on.

You can still exploit the idea of tension though, just pick one of the tensions. The books seems to have picked the tension in the string at rightmost side, that passes through the sheave. Don't forget that the three leftmost bodies move together as a group.
 
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If the left block feels tension T1 and is accelerated with acceleration T1/m1, the next block feels tension T1 working to the left. If that block is also accelerated with acceleration a, the net force on block 2 must be m2a. So it feels a Tension T2 to the right for which m2a = T2-T1.

et cetera
 
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I see. When they all add up I get T3. Thank you very much.
 

Related to Four bodies connected through a sheave

1. What is a sheave?

A sheave is a pulley, typically made of metal or plastic, that is used to guide and/or change the direction of a rope or cable.

2. How are four bodies connected through a sheave?

In this scenario, four bodies (objects or masses) are connected by a single rope or cable that runs through the sheave. The rope or cable is looped around the sheave and connected to each of the four bodies.

3. What is the purpose of connecting four bodies through a sheave?

This setup allows for the transfer of force between the four bodies. When one body moves, it will cause the other bodies to move as well due to the tension in the rope or cable connecting them.

4. What are some real-world applications of four bodies connected through a sheave?

This setup is commonly used in lifting and pulling systems, such as cranes and elevators. It is also used in various types of machinery, such as engines and bicycles, to transfer force and power between different parts.

5. How does the angle of the sheave affect the system of four bodies?

The angle of the sheave can affect the amount of force required to move the four bodies, as well as the direction of the force. A smaller angle will require more force to move the bodies, while a larger angle can reduce the amount of force needed. The angle also plays a role in the stability and efficiency of the system.

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