Finding Complement of a set with respect to space U

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In summary, the complement C' of the set C with respect to the space U is defined as the elements of the space that do not exist inside the set. For the first problem, the answer is C' = {(x,y,z): x^2+y^2+z^2 < 1}. For the second problem, the answer is C' = {(x,y) : x^2+y^2 ≥ 2 and |x|+|y| ≤ 2}. Sketching a graph can help visualize the sets and find the correct answer.
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Homework Statement



Find the complement C' of the set C with respect to the space U if:

1. U = {(x,y,z) : x^2+y^2+z^2 ≤1}, C = {(x,y,z) : x^2+y^2+z^2 = 1}
2. U = {(x,y) : |x| + |y| ≤ 2}, C = {(x,y) : x^2 + y^2 < 2}

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Definition of complement: The elements of the space that do not exist inside the set.

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I wanted to reassure myself that I am doing things right.

For 1: My answer is C' = {(x,y,z): x^2+y^2+z^2 < 1}
However, why is this right? Couldn't I have (sqrt(1/3), sqrt(1/3), sqrt(1/3)) as (x,y,z) for the set C = 1, and then have C' = (sqrt(1/3), sqrt(1/3), 0) and then we have x and y equal in both C and C' ? Is my answer wrong or what am I missing in the understanding here?

For 2: x^2+y^2 < 2 is a circle with radius sqrt(2) where as |x| + |y| ≤ 2 is a square with corners on each x = - 2, x = 2, y= - 2, y = 2. So the area i am looking for is |x| + |y| - x^2 + y^2 ≤ 2.
But I am not sure how to put this into a final answer.

I can visualize it via the area, but it's hard to put this into an answer.
 
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RJLiberator said:
and then we have x and y equal
It does not matter if x and y are equal if not also z is equal. The elements of your set are combinations of three numbers. If those numbers are not all the same, the elements are not the same.

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For 2: x^2+y^2 < 2 is a circle with radius sqrt(2) where as |x| + |y| ≤ 2 is a square with corners on each x = - 2, x = 2, y= - 2, y = 2. So the area i am looking for is |x| + |y| - x^2 + y^2 ≤ 2.
This is simply incorrect. You need to find out what points in the square are not points in the disk.
 
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Thanks for your help. For part 1, I understand now and see why I was confused. Now I understand that I have the correct answer.

For part 2, after thinking about it, I also understand why my area-area part did not work out.
It's more to say:
(|x|+|y| ≤ 2) - (x^2+y^2 < 2) = the complement, but that's not a good answer. I need to find the points in the square that are not points in the disk as you stated.

I see that |x|+|y| = 2 is definitely in the complement.

What I am thinking here is

Answer: C' = {(x,y): sqrt(2) ≤ |x|+|y| ≤ 2}

This takes out the middle part and leaves the good ends. However, their seems to be an error in that sqrt(2) is just another square, but we want a circle.
 
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Hint: You can put several conditions into the definition of the set.
 
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For 2: x^2+y^2 < 2 is a circle with radius sqrt(2) where as |x| + |y| ≤ 2 is a square with corners on each x = - 2, x = 2, y= - 2, y = 2. So the area i am looking for is |x| + |y| - x^2 + y^2 ≤ 2.

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This is simply incorrect. You need to find out what points in the square are not points in the disk.
@RJLiberator, if you haven't already done so, sketch a graph of the two sets. If you have done this, then disregard this advice.
 
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Hm. I think I was making this harder then I needed to make it:

C' = {(x,y) : x^2+y^2 ≥ 2 and |x|+|y| ≤ 2 } This seems to get the correct area.
 

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What does finding the complement of a set with respect to space U mean?

Finding the complement of a set with respect to space U means finding all the elements that are not included in the given set, but are included in the universal set or space U.

What is the universal set or space U?

The universal set or space U is the set that contains all the possible elements that could be included in a given problem or scenario. It is used as a reference set to compare and find the complement of a given set.

How do you find the complement of a set with respect to space U?

To find the complement of a set with respect to space U, you can use the set difference operation. This involves subtracting the given set from the universal set or space U, which will give you all the elements that are not included in the given set.

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Finding the complement of a set with respect to space U can be useful in various scenarios, such as probability and statistics. It can help in determining the probability of an event not occurring, or in finding the number of elements that do not belong to a given category.

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