Finding a scalar field given two gauge fields

In summary, the conversation focuses on demonstrating the equivalence between two gauge fields and finding the corresponding scalar field Φ. The first part involves plugging the fields into a relevant equation, while the second part involves solving for Φ using partial derivatives. The individual discussing the problem is unsure of the solution but is reminded that this type of problem was covered in previous math courses.
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Homework Statement


Demonstrate the equivalence between the gauge fields A1=(0,bx,0) and A2=)-yB/2,xB/2,0) and find the scalar field Φ for which A1= A2 + ∇Φ

Homework Equations


B = ∇XA

The Attempt at a Solution


The first part is fine, you just plug it into the above relevant equation and you get Bk for each. But I am unsure of the second part. I tried

A1 = A2 + ∇Φ ->>>

∇Φ = A1 - A2

Φ = (∫ yB/2 dx , ∫ (Bx - xB/2) dy, ∫ 0 dz)

but it was marked wrong with a "Φ is scalar!" comment.

it's probably really simple but just stuck on it.

as always thanks for any suggestions.
 
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You need to solve [tex]
\frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial x} = \frac{By}{2}, \\
\frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial y} = \frac{Bx}{2}, \\
\frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial z} = 0.
[/tex] Have you not had to solve such problems before?
 
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pasmith said:
You need to solve [tex]
\frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial x} = \frac{By}{2}, \\
\frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial y} = \frac{Bx}{2}, \\
\frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial z} = 0.
[/tex] Have you not had to solve such problems before?
ahh i remember now, it was covered in last years math, will dig out my notes. Thank you!
 

Related to Finding a scalar field given two gauge fields

1. What is a scalar field and how is it related to gauge fields?

A scalar field is a mathematical concept that assigns a scalar value (a number) to every point in space. It is related to gauge fields in that gauge fields are vector fields that describe the strength and direction of a force at each point in space, while a scalar field describes the magnitude of a physical quantity at each point in space.

2. Why is it important to find a scalar field given two gauge fields?

Finding a scalar field given two gauge fields is important because it allows us to fully understand and describe a physical system. By having both the strength and direction of a force (gauge fields) and the magnitude of a physical quantity (scalar field), we can accurately model and predict the behavior of the system.

3. What methods are commonly used to find a scalar field given two gauge fields?

One commonly used method is the inverse scattering method, which uses mathematical equations and techniques to solve for the scalar field based on known gauge fields. Another method is the principle of least action, where the scalar field is found by minimizing the action (a mathematical quantity related to the system's energy) of the gauge fields.

4. Are there any real-world applications for finding a scalar field given two gauge fields?

Yes, there are many real-world applications for this concept. For example, in physics, the Higgs field is a scalar field that was discovered by finding the scalar field associated with the electromagnetic and weak gauge fields. In engineering, this concept is used in fields such as fluid dynamics, where scalar fields (such as temperature or pressure) are found based on known gauge fields (such as velocity or density).

5. Are there any challenges or limitations to finding a scalar field given two gauge fields?

One challenge is that the inverse scattering method can be computationally complex and time-consuming. Additionally, in some cases, it may not be possible to find a unique scalar field for a given set of gauge fields, leading to ambiguity in the system's description. Furthermore, this concept may not apply to all physical systems, as some may not have a well-defined scalar field related to their gauge fields.

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