Find maximum and minimum of P

In summary, to find the maximum and minimum of P, one can use a mathematical function called a derivative. A local maximum or minimum refers to the highest or lowest point within a small interval around a specific point on the curve, while a global maximum or minimum is the highest or lowest point on the entire curve. Finding the maximum and minimum of P is important in various fields and can be achieved through methods such as using derivatives, graphs, and computer algorithms. The maximum and minimum of P can also change over time due to changes in underlying factors or variables.
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Find the minimum and maximum of $P=\dfrac{y−x}{x+8y}$ for all real $x$ and $y$ that satisfy the equation $y^2(6-x^2)-xy-1=0$.
 
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Hint:

If you're fond of using the AM-GM inequality method (when applicable) to solve for optimization problem, then you could try to express $P$ in terms of $xy$.
 
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anemone said:
Hint:

If you're fond of using the AM-GM inequality method (when applicable) to solve for optimization problem, then you could try to express $P$ in terms of $xy$.
$max(P)=\dfrac {7}{2},\,\, xy=-1$
$min(P)=\dfrac {-1}{10},\, xy=1$
 
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Yes, those are the correct answers, Albert. If your method of solving is different than mine, I hope you could post it to share it with me and MHB. Thanks. :)

Here is my solution:
$\begin{align*}P&=\dfrac{y−x}{x+8y}\\&=\dfrac{y(y−x)}{y(x+8y)}\\&=\dfrac{y^2−xy}{xy+8y^2}\\&=\dfrac{\dfrac{x^2y^2+xy+1}{6}−xy}{xy+8\left(\dfrac{x^2y^2+xy+1}{6}\right)}\\&=\dfrac{x^2y^2+xy+1-6xy}{6xy+8x^2y^2+8xy+8}\\&=\dfrac{x^2y^2-5xy+1}{8x^2y^2+14xy+8}\\&=\dfrac{x^2y^2-5xy+1}{8(x^2y^2+\dfrac{14xy}{8}+1)}\\&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27xy}{4(x^2y^2+\dfrac{14xy}{8}+1)}\right)\\&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27}{4(\dfrac{14}{8}+xy+\dfrac{1}{xy})}\right)\end{align*}$

If $xy\gt 0$, we get $P_{\text{minimum}}=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27}{4(\dfrac{14}{8}+2)}\right)=-\dfrac{1}{10}$.

If $xy\lt 0$, then we need to rewrite $P$ such that it takes the form:

$\begin{align*}P&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27}{4(\dfrac{14}{8}+xy+\dfrac{1}{xy})}\right)\\&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27}{4(\dfrac{14}{8}-|xy|-\dfrac{1}{|xy|})}\right)\\&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1+\dfrac{27}{4\left(|xy|+\dfrac{1}{|xy|}-\dfrac{14}{8}\right)}\right)\end{align*}$

Thus $P_{\text{maximum}}=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1+\dfrac{27}{4\left(2-\dfrac{14}{8}\right)}\right)=\dfrac{7}{2}$.
 
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Albert said:
$max(P)=\dfrac {7}{2},\,\, xy=-1$
$min(P)=\dfrac {-1}{10},\, xy=1$
my solution:
let $k=xy$
$p=\dfrac {k^2-5k+1}{8k^2+14k+8}$ (up to now the solution is similar to anemone's method)
if $k>0 $ then :
$P\geq \dfrac{2k-5k}{8k^2+14k+8}=\dfrac {-3k}{8k^2+14k+8}=\dfrac {-1}{10}$ equality holds when $k=xy=1$
if $k<0 $ then :
$P\leq \dfrac{k^2-5k+1}{14k-16k}=\dfrac {k^2-5k+1}{-2k}=\dfrac {7}{2}$ equality holds when $k=xy=-1$
 

Related to Find maximum and minimum of P

1. How do you find the maximum and minimum of P?

To find the maximum and minimum of P, you can use a mathematical function called a derivative. The derivative will give you the slope of the curve at any given point, and the maximum and minimum values of P will occur where the slope is equal to zero.

2. Can you explain the concept of local and global maximum and minimum?

A local maximum or minimum is the highest or lowest point within a small interval around a specific point on the curve. A global maximum or minimum, on the other hand, is the highest or lowest point on the entire curve, regardless of the interval.

3. What is the significance of finding the maximum and minimum of P?

Finding the maximum and minimum of P is important in many fields, such as economics, engineering, and physics. It allows us to optimize a system or process by identifying the most efficient or effective point. It also helps us understand the behavior and trends of a system.

4. What are some methods for finding the maximum and minimum of P?

Some common methods for finding the maximum and minimum of P include using derivatives, setting the first derivative equal to zero and solving for P, using graphs and visualization techniques, and using computer algorithms or software programs.

5. Can the maximum and minimum of P change over time?

Yes, the maximum and minimum of P can change over time if the underlying factors or variables that affect P change. For example, in a business setting, the maximum and minimum profits may change due to changes in market conditions, production costs, or consumer demand.

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