Electron position in transparent materials and bit more

In summary, the electron is in the same position where it absorbed the photon, so the photon is emitted in the same side.
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So, i was thinking about this and figured out this: depending on electron orbit and, corespondingly, speed around the nuclei and energy of the photon, if the electron makes full cycle by the time it re-emits that photon the material is reflective - electron is in the same position where it absorbed it, so the photon is emitted in the same side.
If the electron is in the other side of nuclei the photon is emitted in the other side, so the material is transparent. True, false?

2. What exactly happens when photon is absorbed- its energy is transferred to heat/ motion of atoms?

3. Atoms in a material with temperature >0K move around/ vibrate. Why doesn't this make chaos and prevent ,say, transparency by changing the rotation of the atom with the electron, so the electron isn't in where it should be? Or maybe the atom is something like a little gyroscope?

I am new to this forum and started to really be interested in how stuff works and to search up info about ... everything about 2 years ago. (I am 17 now) So don't be too harsh on me, because there is a LOT of things i don't understand and i am just learning... ;)
 
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Please start by reading the FAQ thread in the General Physics forum, especially the entry on the photons going through a material. You have a few error in concepts here. In a solid, the "atomic behavior" is no longer relevant in most properties of a solid - that's why atomic/molecular physics is a different field of study than solid state/condensed matter physics. A solid has a collective behavior that is missing in an isolated atom.

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There are several ways photons can interact with atoms. This includes photoelectric effect, Compton scattering, pair production, bremsstrahlung, photonuclear reactions, etc. One you might be interested in is the photoelectric effect, in which all the energy of the incident photon is converted to potential and kinetic energy of a bound electron. The attached plot shows the probability (or cross section) on the vertical axis for a photon interacting with a lead atom, plotted against the photon energy on the horizontal axis. The probability is dropping very fast vs. photon energy in the 50 KeV range, but when it reaches ~80 KeV, the probability suddenly jumps up by a factor of ~5. The reason for the sudden jump is that when the photon reaches the binding energy of the innermost electrons in the K (or n=1) shell, the photon has enough energy to knock that electron out, so the probability of the photon interacting with the atom jumps up by a large factor. This is called the photoelectric effect. It can occur in solids, liqiuds, and gases. This can happen whenever the photon has enough energy to knock any electron off the atom, even if the binding energy is a few electron volts (visible light, etc.)
 

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Bob S said:
There are several ways photons can interact with atoms. This includes photoelectric effect, Compton scattering, pair production, bremsstrahlung, photonuclear reactions, etc. One you might be interested in is the photoelectric effect, in which all the energy of the incident photon is converted to potential and kinetic energy of a bound electron. The attached plot shows the probability (or cross section) on the vertical axis for a photon interacting with a lead atom, plotted against the photon energy on the horizontal axis. The probability is dropping very fast vs. photon energy in the 50 KeV range, but when it reaches ~80 KeV, the probability suddenly jumps up by a factor of ~5. The reason for the sudden jump is that when the photon reaches the binding energy of the innermost electrons in the K (or n=1) shell, the photon has enough energy to knock that electron out, so the probability of the photon interacting with the atom jumps up by a large factor. This is called the photoelectric effect. It can occur in solids, liqiuds, and gases. This can happen whenever the photon has enough energy to knock any electron off the atom, even if the binding energy is a few electron volts (visible light, etc.)

Actually, that is called "core-level photoemission". It is nothing like the photoelectric effect that most people are familiar with, and certainly NOT the same type that is described using the Einstein equation. That equation doesn't work that well when we go beyond photoemission in a standard metal's conduction band.

You need to be more careful what you are doing and not give misleading information here.

Zz.
 

Related to Electron position in transparent materials and bit more

1. What is the role of electrons in transparent materials?

Electrons play a crucial role in the transparency of materials. They are responsible for the absorption and transmission of light, which gives materials their transparency. Electrons absorb and then re-emit light at a different energy level, allowing light to pass through the material.

2. How does the position of electrons affect the transparency of a material?

The position of electrons within a material can greatly affect its transparency. When electrons are tightly bound to the atoms in a material, they are less likely to interact with light and therefore the material is more transparent. However, when electrons are free to move and interact with light, they can absorb and scatter it, making the material less transparent.

3. Can the position of electrons be controlled in transparent materials?

Yes, the position of electrons in transparent materials can be controlled through various methods such as doping, applying an external electric field, or changing the temperature. These methods can alter the electronic structure of the material and therefore affect the position and behavior of electrons.

4. What is the difference between transparent and opaque materials in terms of electron position?

The main difference between transparent and opaque materials lies in the position of their electrons. In transparent materials, the electrons are able to move freely and do not significantly interact with light, allowing it to pass through. In opaque materials, the electrons are tightly bound and do not allow light to pass through due to absorption and scattering.

5. How does the concept of electron position relate to the creation of electronic devices?

The concept of electron position is crucial in the development and functioning of electronic devices. The manipulation and control of electron position allows for the creation of materials with specific electronic properties, which are essential for the functioning of electronic devices such as transistors, LEDs, and solar cells.

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