Does Convergence of a Sequence Imply Convergence of Its Absolute Values?

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In summary, when a sequence "tends to" a limit, it means that the values of the sequence get closer and closer to the given limit as the terms of the sequence get larger. To prove this, we need to show that the terms of the sequence get arbitrarily close to the limit for any given positive number ε. The absolute value in this statement is important because it takes into account both possibilities of the terms approaching the limit from either side. An example of a sequence that does not tend to a limit is {(-1)^n}, which alternates between -1 and 1. This concept is useful in real-world applications such as predicting the behavior of systems involving continuously changing quantities.
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Prove that $a_n\to L\implies|a_n|\to|L|$. (Make cases and use Theorem 5.3B)

Theorem 5.3B: Assuming $\{a_n\}$ converges,

$\lim\ a_n<M\implies a_n<M$ for $n\gg 1$

$\lim\ a_n>M\implies a_n>M$ for $n\gg 1$

My attempt:

Given $\epsilon>0$,

$L-\epsilon<\lim\ a_n<L+\epsilon$ for all $n$

$L-\epsilon<a_n<L+\epsilon$ for $n\gg 1$ (Using Theorem 5.3B)

$-\epsilon<a_n-L<\epsilon$ for $n\gg 1$

$|a_n-L|<\epsilon$ for $n\gg 1$

Case 1: $|a_n|\ge|L|$ for $n\gg 1$

$|a_n|-|L|\le|a_n-L|<\epsilon$ for $n\gg 1$

So, $|a_n|\to|L|$

Case 2: $|a_n|<|L|$ for $n\gg 1$

$|L|-|a_n|\le|a_n-L|<\epsilon$ for $n\gg 1$

So, $|a_n|\to|L|$

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Could someone please check the above proof for me?
 
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Alexmahone said:
Prove that $a_n\to L\implies|a_n|\to|L|$. (Make cases and use Theorem 5.3B)
My attempt:

Given $\epsilon>0$,

$L-\epsilon<\lim\ a_n<L+\epsilon$ for all $n$

$L-\epsilon<a_n<L+\epsilon$ for $n\gg 1$ (Using Theorem 5.3B)

$-\epsilon<a_n-L<\epsilon$ for $n\gg 1$

$|a_n-L|<\epsilon$ for $n\gg 1$

This looks strange for a proof. Basicaly what you proved is that $|a_n - L | < \varepsilon$ for $n$ sufficiently large. But we know that already as that is the definition of convergence! You did not prove anything useful, that is the very definition.
 
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ThePerfectHacker said:
This looks strange for a proof. Basicaly what you proved is that $|a_n - L | < \varepsilon$ for $n$ sufficiently large. But we know that already as that is the definition of convergence! You did not prove anything useful, that is the very definition.

I guess the only thing required is $||x|-|y||\le|x-y|$, which can be proved by squaring both sides.
 
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Prove that $a_n\to L\implies|a_n|\to|L|$. (Make cases and use Theorem 5.3B)

Theorem 5.3B: Assuming $\{a_n\}$ converges,

$\lim\ a_n<M\implies a_n<M$ for $n\gg 1$

$\lim\ a_n>M\implies a_n>M$ for $n\gg 1$

Case 1: \(L>0\)

Then by the theorem the \(a_n\)s are eventually all positive and so from that point on \(|a_n|\to \lim_{n\to \infty} a_n=L=|L|\)

Case 2: \(L<0\)

Then by the theorem the \(a_n\)s are eventually all negative so \(|a_n| \to \lim_{n \to \infty} -a_n=-L=|L|\)

Case 3: \(L=0\) left to the reader

CB
 
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CaptainBlack said:
Case 3: \(L=0\) left to the reader

I don't see how this case can be tackled like the first 2 cases.
 
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Alexmahone said:
I don't see how this case can be tackled like the first 2 cases.

Case 3 is for \(a_n\) being a null sequence, which reduces straight off to \(|a_n|\to 0=|L|\)
 

Related to Does Convergence of a Sequence Imply Convergence of Its Absolute Values?

1. What does it mean for a sequence to "tend to" a limit?

When we say that a sequence "tends to" a limit, it means that as we take larger and larger terms of the sequence, the values get closer and closer to the given limit.

2. How do you prove that |a_n| tends to |L|?

To prove that |a_n| tends to |L|, we need to show that for any given positive number ε, we can find a corresponding value of N such that for all n > N, |a_n - L| < ε. This essentially means that the terms of the sequence get arbitrarily close to the limit L as n gets larger and larger.

3. What is the significance of absolute value in this statement?

The absolute value in the statement "|a_n| tends to |L|" is important because it ensures that we are considering the distance between the terms of the sequence and the limit, rather than just the difference. This is necessary because the terms of the sequence can approach the limit from either side, and the absolute value ensures that we are taking into account both possibilities.

4. Can you give an example of a sequence that does not tend to a limit?

Yes, a simple example is the sequence {(-1)^n}, which alternates between -1 and 1. This sequence does not tend to a limit because it constantly oscillates between two values instead of approaching a single value.

5. How is this concept useful in real-world applications?

The concept of a sequence tending to a limit is useful in many fields, such as physics, engineering, and economics. It allows us to model and predict the behavior of systems that involve continuously changing quantities, such as velocity, temperature, or stock prices.

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