Divergence Theorem Help - Flux of Vector A Through V

In summary, the conversation discusses how to use the divergence theorem to calculate the flux of a given vector field out of a region bounded by the x-y plane, the upper half-sphere with radius 2, and the cylinder with radius 1. The participants suggest approaching the problem by calculating the flux out of the base and sides of the region, as well as finding the total divergence within the region. They also mention the possibility of using cylindrical coordinates to simplify the calculation. It is also suggested to consider using Stoke's theorem instead of the divergence theorem.
  • #1
Nima
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Consider the volume V bounded below by the x-y plane and above by the upper half-sphere x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 4 and inside the cylinder x^2 + y^2 = 1

Given vector field: A = xi + yj + zk

Use the divergence theorem to calculate the flux of A out of V through the spherical cap on the cylinder.

Really stuck!

Could someone please give me tips on how to answer these sort of questions? I get really stuck, like firstly replacing dS in the surface integral, and what equations to use, etc. I couldn't even get going with this one, my only idea was just calculating the flux through the upper half sphere ... how does the cylinder equation come into it?

Thanks
 
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  • #2
Can you visualize what the region is? It is like a grain silo. The sphere has radius 2 and the cylinder only has radius 1.

I think they may want you to approach it by calculating three things:
1. the flux out of the base of the silo
2. the flux out of the sides of the silo
3. the total divergence within the silo
You can then use the divergence theorem to find the flux out of the cap of the silo. I do not really know if this is simpler than calculating the flux directly. You can use cylindrical coordinates which will simplify it.
 
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  • #3
Too complex if you calculate the flux directly.
The divergence theorem states that:
[tex] flux = \iint_S AdS = \iiint_V \nabla A dV [/tex]
Given vector field A=xi+yj+zk =r and easily find the form of
[tex] \nabla A [/tex]
Applying the divergence theorem, you will quickly find the solution.
 
  • #4
It would probably make your life easier to compute the volume in spherical coordinates.

And the divergence theorem is:

[tex] flux = \phi = \iint_S \vec F \cdot d\vec S = \iiint_{\partial V} \nabla \cdot \vec F \,\,dV [/tex]

Remember that [itex] d\vec S = \hat n dS [/itex] and that [itex] \partial V [/itex] is the bounds on the integral that contain your "object" that you are finding the flux through.

It's important to remember that the dot product returns a SCALAR. You are integrating a scalar function NOT a vector. So when you do:

[tex] \nabla \cdot \vec A [/tex]. You get a scalar function which happens to just turn out to be a constant right? So really you are trying to find something of the form:

[tex] 3 \iiint dV [/tex] which is really just a constant times a volume. You could probably just find the volume geometrically without any calculus. Try setting up the problem step by step.
 
  • #5
Are you really required to use the divergence theorem? This looks like exactly the kind of problem Stoke's theorem is designed for.
 
  • #6
HallsofIvy, I don't understand how you could apply Stoke's theorem in this case to calculate the net flux.
 

Related to Divergence Theorem Help - Flux of Vector A Through V

1. What is the Divergence Theorem?

The Divergence Theorem is a mathematical theorem that relates the flux of a vector field through a closed surface to the divergence of the vector field inside the surface. It states that the flux through a closed surface is equal to the volume integral of the divergence of the vector field over the volume enclosed by the surface.

2. How is the Divergence Theorem used in physics?

The Divergence Theorem is used in physics to relate the flow of a vector field through a closed surface to the sources and sinks of the vector field within the enclosed volume. This is particularly useful in fluid mechanics, where it is used to calculate the net flow of fluid through a closed surface.

3. What is the equation for the Divergence Theorem?

The equation for the Divergence Theorem is given by:
∫∫S F · dS = ∫∫∫V ∇ · F dV
where F is the vector field, S is the closed surface, and V is the enclosed volume.

4. How do you calculate the flux of a vector field through a surface using the Divergence Theorem?

To calculate the flux of a vector field through a surface using the Divergence Theorem, you first need to calculate the divergence of the vector field over the enclosed volume. Then, you can use the equation ∫∫S F · dS = ∫∫∫V ∇ · F dV to find the flux through the surface.

5. What are some real-world applications of the Divergence Theorem?

The Divergence Theorem has many applications in physics and engineering, such as calculating the flow of fluids through pipes, analyzing electric and magnetic fields, and studying fluid dynamics in weather patterns. It is also used in computer graphics and animation to simulate fluid behavior. Additionally, it has applications in other areas of mathematics, such as differential equations and topology.

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