Derivative word problem. Tricky

In summary, the conversation is discussing how to find the point P on the curve y = x3 - 8x, where if the spaceship shuts off its engines, it can continue along the tangent at P and reach the point (4,0). The conversation involves using equations and the slope of the tangent to solve for P.
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Homework Statement



A spaceship moves along y = x3 - 8x in the positive x-direction. Shutting off the engines at P allows it to move off along the tangent at P. Find P so that the ship can reach the point (4,0).

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



So I start with P = (x1,y1). The slope of the tangent is then m = 3x12 - 8 from the first derivative.

Then I need P, so I went like this:

m = (y2 - y1) / (x2 - x1) = 3x12 - 8 where y2 and x2 are (4,0).

But now I have 1 Eqn. and 2 variables so I can't solve. I was thinking of using y = mx + b because I have y and x, plus an equation for m but then I end up with 2 equations and 3 variables because of the b term. Please help!
 
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Okay, [itex]m= 3x_1^2- 8[/itex] and you know, I presume, that a straight line (except vertical) can be written y= m(x-a)+ b where m is the slope and (a, b) is a point on the line. What is the equation of the line with slope [itex]3x_1^2- 8[/itex] through (4, 0)?
You want that straight line to touch the graph when x= x1 so set the two equations, for the cubic and for the straight line equal and set x= x1. Solve for x1.
 
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Ok! I got it! Thanks a bunch
 

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1. What is a derivative word problem?

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