Decays possible? Parity conservation, bosons, fermions

In summary: Can you clarify?In summary, the conversation is about determining possible decays for particles and the role of parity and symmetry in these decays. The solution for part ii) is that it is not possible because the final wavefunction must be symmetric under the exchange of two identical bosons, which requires the orbital angular momentum to be even. This symmetry is only relevant for identical particles, not for non-identical ones.
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binbagsss
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1. Homework Statement

The question is to determine which decays are possible for:

i) ##P^0 ->\prod^+ \prod^-##
ii)##P^0 ->\prod^0 \prod^0##


Homework Equations



where ##J^p = 0^-, 1^- ## respectively for ##\prod^+, \prod^- , \prod^0## and ##P^0## respectively.

The Attempt at a Solution



For part i, the LHS has odd parity. ##P=(-1)^l##, so on the RHS we require ##l## to be odd.
Also need to conserve total angular momentum ##J=(l+s)+(l+s-1)+...+ | l-s |## *
On LHS ##J=1.##
##s=0##, so conservation gives ##l=-1## , which is consistent with an odd parity , so the decay is allowed.


part ii) We have the same J and P arguments, so I would have concluded the decay is possible.
The solution however is that is not because the RHS now has 2 identical bosons so the final wavefunction must be symmetric under the exchange of the two neutral pions. However this requires that the orbital angular momentum is even, so we have inconsistency.

So here's what I know :
If you swap 2 bosons the wave function has to be unchanged, but if you swap 2 fermions the wave function changes sign.
So , with this, I now don't see why we can't apply the argument to the decay in part i) - unless this property is only true for a system of identical particles??

More importantly, I don't follow the argument completely: The angular momentum being odd or even, i.e- as far as I can see the only way for ##l## to creep in, comes from the parity being odd or even- ##P=(-1)^l##, but parity is describing how the wave function behaves under a change from ##\vec r ## to ##\vec -r## So what has this got to do with swapping 2 bosons? The only possible argument I can think of would be along the lines of considering the particular case were one of the particles is situated at ##\vec r ## and the other at ##\vec -r## when we swap the bosons position??Thanks in advance !
 
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binbagsss said:
unless this property is only true for a system of identical particles??
That is the point.
Swapping two non-identical particles leads to a completely different system, where no symmetry is relevant. Only swapping two identical particles has an interesting result.

What is P, by the way? ##\rho##?
 
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mfb said:
That is the point.
Swapping two non-identical particles leads to a completely different system, where no symmetry is relevant. Only swapping two identical particles has an interesting result.

What is P, by the way? ##\rho##?

##P## is the parity.
 
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I mean the particle that decays. I do not recognize capital P as a particle name, only p for protons but that does not make sense here.
 
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I would respond by saying that the reason for the difference in allowed decays between part i and part ii lies in the symmetry properties of the final wavefunction. In part i, the final state has odd parity and therefore the orbital angular momentum must be odd to satisfy the conservation of parity. This also means that the wavefunction must be antisymmetric under the exchange of the two particles, which is consistent with the properties of fermions. However, in part ii, the final state has even parity and therefore the orbital angular momentum must be even. This requires the wavefunction to be symmetric under the exchange of the two particles, which is not possible for identical bosons. This is because identical bosons must have a symmetric wavefunction, and swapping them would not change the wavefunction, leading to an inconsistency. Therefore, the different allowed decays in part i and part ii are due to the different symmetries required for the final state wavefunction.
 

Related to Decays possible? Parity conservation, bosons, fermions

1. What is parity conservation?

Parity conservation is a physical principle that states that the laws of physics should remain the same when a system undergoes a parity transformation, which is a change in spatial coordinates from left to right or vice versa. This means that if you observe a physical process in a left-handed coordinate system, you should be able to observe the same process in a right-handed coordinate system with the same results.

2. What are bosons?

Bosons are a type of elementary particle that have integer spin, meaning they have a whole number value of angular momentum. Examples of bosons include photons, which are particles of light, and the Higgs boson, which is responsible for giving other particles their mass. Bosons follow Bose-Einstein statistics and can occupy the same quantum state at the same time.

3. What are fermions?

Fermions are a type of elementary particle that have half-integer spin, meaning they have a half number value of angular momentum. Examples of fermions include electrons, protons, and neutrons. Fermions follow Fermi-Dirac statistics and cannot occupy the same quantum state at the same time.

4. How do bosons and fermions relate to decays?

Bosons and fermions play a crucial role in particle decays. In many decays, a boson is exchanged between two particles, allowing for the interaction to occur. For example, in the beta decay of a neutron, a W boson is exchanged between the neutron and a proton, causing the neutron to turn into a proton and emit an electron and an antineutrino. Fermions also play a role in decays as they are the building blocks of matter and make up the particles involved in the decay process.

5. Why is it important to understand decays and the conservation of parity?

Understanding decays and parity conservation is important in particle physics as it helps us better understand the fundamental building blocks of the universe and their interactions. By studying decays and the conservation of parity, scientists can gain insights into the laws of nature and potentially discover new particles and forces. Additionally, this knowledge has practical applications in fields such as medical imaging and nuclear energy.

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