Can Statics and Torque Principles Help Solve These Physics Problems?

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In summary, the defect in the teeter-totter causes the fulcrum to be placed off-center, which causes the weight to be distributed unevenly.
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It's my first time posting here; I'm usually able to get help from my teacher and friends at school, but I'm in a bind: I was absent for most of the torque/statics unit this week and I have a test tomorrow that can't be re-scheduled. Here's a few problems similar to the ones I'm to be tested on; if I could be guided through these I'd be eternally grateful.

1a. Homework Statement

A brick is placed on a bike pedal to provide torque and cause the bike to roll. If the brick weighs 8kg and the pedal is 16cm away from the crankshaft's axis of rotation, find the torque applied to the crankshaft when the pedal is in each of the following positions: straight forward, 45 degrees towards the front and down, and straight down.

1b. Relevant equations

t = m g x sin( theta) (is this right?)

1c. The attempt at a solution

Straight down-zero (no distance between the center of rotation and the point at which the weight acts)
at 45 degrees t = 8 * 9.8 * 0.16 * sin(45deg) = 8.87 Nm
and at 90 t = 8 * 9.8 * 0.16 * 1 = 12.5 Nm

Really not sure if these are right...but seems somewhat logical...

2a. Homework Statement

A basic draw bridge over a river is operated by two chains, one attached to each upper corner of the bridge. The bridge's mass is 300kg and is stationary at a 55 degree angle upwards from the horizontal. At this angle the chains are perfectly horizontal. Find the tension in each chain, the force exerted by each of the hinges on the bridge (assuming there are two identical hinges, one at each bottom corner), and the tension in each chain required to begin lifting the bridge from a far/open position.

2b. Relevant equations

See below...it's a start...

2c. The attempt at a solution

I don't have the length of the chain, or the door? Does this matter?

Assuming the length of the door = 1, the height of the chain, when horizontal (with a 55degree right traingle) = cos 35 = .819

The new triangle, when the door is horizontal is A (door) = 1, B (height) = .819

the angle between the chain and the door = invtan(.819/1) = 39.3175

I know the weight on the door = 300kg, acting at .5 so the vertical component of the force on the two chains combined = 150kg.

So the total tension on the two chains = the vertical force (150kg) / sin 39.3175 = 150kg / .6336 = 236.736kg

Each chain then has a total tension of 236.736/2 = 118.368

Not really sure to go from here?
 
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(no distance between the center of rotation and the point at which the weight acts)
This is not correct - the brick is always a fixed distance from the center of rotation. You mean the perpendicular distance between the applied force and the center of rotation is zero.

The other way to think about this is to resolve the applied force into radial and tangential components. This way helps for complicated systems.


I don't have the length of the chain, or the door? Does this matter?
By "door" you mean "bridge"? Put the length of the bridge as L and work it out.

Weight of bridge acts at center of mass - you spotted that.
Analyse by balancing the torques then resolve into radial and tangential components to get the tension in the the chains and the forces the hinges have to balance.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
This is not correct - the brick is always a fixed distance from the center of rotation. You mean the perpendicular distance between the applied force and the center of rotation is zero.

The other way to think about this is to resolve the applied force into radial and tangential components. This way helps for complicated systems.

That makes sense, I mis-spoke. Thanks! Other than that does the work for #1 seem correct?

By "door" you mean "bridge"? Put the length of the bridge as L and work it out.

Weight of bridge acts at center of mass - you spotted that.
Analyse by balancing the torques then resolve into radial and tangential components to get the tension in the the chains and the forces the hinges have to balance.

Radial and tangential components? You lost me there. I tried using torque but I'm not too confident in these numbers:

Tnet=0
Tnet=3000N(L/2)-Lcos55(x)
1500L=Lcos55(x)
1500=cos55(x)
x=2615.17N
So 1307N per chain?

For the hinges:

3000cos55 = 1720.73
so 860N each?

And I have one more question (simpler), can you let me know if you agree with the answer? Just want to be sure I have the basics down.

Question

A defective teeter-totter, 8.4m long weighing 8kg, is located in a playground. The fulcrum was accidentally placed 22cm to the left of the real center of mass of the bar. If a 43kg boy sits at the far end of the short side, where should an identically weighted child sit to balance the teeter totter (measured from the far end of the long side)?

Work

Tnet=0
Tnet= 8.4m(80N) + 3.98m(430N) - x(430N)
430x=2383.4
x=5.54m

8.4-5.54=2.86m from the long side

Thanks again for all the help.
 
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chambo622 said:
Radial and tangential components? You lost me there.
"radial" = pointing along the radius.
We are talking about circular motion.
Draw a line from the center of the rotation to the place the force is applied. This is the radial direction. Perpendicular to that is the tangential direction. Resolve the applied force against these directions.

I tried using torque but I'm not too confident in these numbers:
I don't do numbers - just physics :)
The bridge is the arm of the rotation.
forces perpendicular to the bridge provide torques.
A defective teeter-totter, 8.4m long weighing 8kg, is located in a playground. The fulcrum was accidentally placed 22cm to the left of the real center of mass of the bar. If a 43kg boy sits at the far end of the short side, where should an identically weighted child sit to balance the teeter totter (measured from the far end of the long side)?
There are three torques to balance.

If the fulcrum is 22cm left of the balance point then the com is 22cm to the right of the fulcrum. So there are two torques to the right and one to the left. The length of the moment arm should be measured from the center of the rotation - i.e. the position of the fulcrum.

Remember to explain your reasoning. It is hard to tell what you intend from just the numbers.
 
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I understand your frustration and the importance of preparing for tests. However, it is important to remember that understanding the concepts and principles behind torque and statics is more important than simply memorizing equations and plugging in numbers. That being said, I will provide guidance for the problems you have presented.

1a. To find the torque applied to the crankshaft, we need to use the equation t = F x d, where t is torque, F is the force applied, and d is the distance from the axis of rotation to the point where the force is applied. In this case, the force is the weight of the brick and the distance is 16cm. So, for each position, we can calculate the torque by multiplying the weight of the brick (8kg) by the distance (16cm) and the sine of the angle between the force and the lever arm (the distance from the axis of rotation to the point where the force is applied). This gives us:

- Straight forward: t = 8kg x 0.16m x sin(0) = 0 Nm
- 45 degrees towards the front and down: t = 8kg x 0.16m x sin(45) = 1.13 Nm
- Straight down: t = 8kg x 0.16m x sin(90) = 1.28 Nm

So, your calculations for the torque in each position are correct.

2a. To find the tension in each chain, we can use the equation T = mg, where T is tension, m is mass, and g is the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s^2). In this case, we can use the vertical component of the weight of the bridge (300kg x 9.8 m/s^2 x cos(55)) to find the tension in each chain when the bridge is at a 55 degree angle. This gives us a tension of approximately 1,335 N in each chain.

To find the force exerted by each hinge, we can use the equation F = ma, where F is force, m is mass, and a is acceleration. Since the bridge is stationary, we know that the acceleration is 0, so the force exerted by each hinge is also 0.

To find the tension in each chain required to begin lifting the bridge from a far/open position, we need to consider
 

Related to Can Statics and Torque Principles Help Solve These Physics Problems?

What is torque?

Torque is a measure of the rotational force applied to an object. It is calculated by multiplying the force applied to the object by the distance from the axis of rotation to the point where the force is applied.

How is torque different from force?

Torque is a rotational force, while force is a linear force. Torque causes an object to rotate around an axis, while force causes an object to move in a straight line.

What is the difference between static and dynamic equilibrium?

In static equilibrium, the object is not moving or rotating. This means that the net force and net torque acting on the object are both equal to zero. In dynamic equilibrium, the object may be moving, but it is not accelerating or rotating. In this case, the net force and net torque are both still equal to zero.

How do I calculate torque in a simple system?

To calculate torque in a simple system, you can use the equation torque = force x distance. Make sure to measure the distance from the axis of rotation to the point where the force is applied in meters, and use force in Newtons.

What is the principle of moments?

The principle of moments states that for an object to be in equilibrium, the sum of all clockwise torques must be equal to the sum of all counterclockwise torques. This principle is used to solve torque and statics problems.

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