Can Spin Comutation Relations be Simplified by Using Average Spin Values?

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of an approximation in the context of a spin system. The approximation states that the commutator of the spin operators \hat{S}^{\pm}_{n} and \hat{S}^-_{m} is approximately equal to twice the spin value S multiplied by the Kronecker delta function with indices n and m. This approximation is valid when the average value of the spin operator \hat{S}^z is approximately equal to the spin value S. The conversation also touches on the possibility of using boson operators to replace the spin operators in the Hamiltonian, with the understanding that this would only be a good approximation in certain cases.
  • #1
Petar Mali
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[tex][\hat{S}^+_{n},\hat{S}^-_{m}]=2S_n^z\delta_{n,m}[/tex]

where [tex]n,m[/tex] are position vectors of spins. Why if we have

[tex]\langle\hat{S}^z\rangle\approx S[/tex] we can use

[tex][\hat{S}^+_{n},\hat{S}^-_{m}]\approx 2S\delta_{n,m}[/tex]?

where [tex]S[/tex] is value of the spin, for example [tex]\frac{1}{2}[/tex].
 
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  • #2
Its an approximation. And we know that

[tex]
\langle [\hat{S}^+_{n},\hat{S}^-_{m}]\rangle \approx 2S\delta_{n,m}
[/tex]
So it does not appear implausible.
 
  • #3
Yes ok. I don't have problem with

[tex] \langle [\hat{S}^+_{n},\hat{S}^-_{m}]\rangle \approx 2S\delta_{n,m}[/tex]

but where [tex]\langle... \rangle[/tex] disappear?

Why I can use this approximation?

[tex]
[\hat{S}^+_{n},\hat{S}^-_{m}]\approx 2S\delta_{n,m}
[/tex]
 
  • #4
If relation [tex]

[\hat{S}^+_{n},\hat{S}^-_{m}]\approx 2S\delta_{n,m}

[/tex]

is correct than

we can define

[tex]\hat{S}^-_n \rightarrow \sqrt{2S}\hat{B}_n^+[/tex]

[tex]\hat{S}^+_n\rightarrow \sqrt{2S}\hat{B}_n[/tex]

which is Bloch approximation but I don't see some reasons for

[tex]

[\hat{S}^+_{n},\hat{S}^-_{m}]\approx 2S\delta_{n,m}

[/tex]
 
  • #5
Petar Mali said:
Why I can use this approximation?
You can always use whatever approximation you like. The question is whether it is good or bad. This depends on the system you use it for. A point about which you didn't tell us anything.
 
  • #6
Well I have some magnetic ordered system. For example ferromagnet or antiferromagnet and have some spin hamiltonian. I want to replace operators [tex]\hat{S}^{\pm},\hat{S}^z[/tex] with some functions of Bose operators. Temperatures are low.
 
  • #7
Well, what you could try is to express the hamiltonian in terms of [tex] \hat{B}_n^+[/tex] and
[tex]
\hat{S}^-_n - \sqrt{2S}\hat{B}_n^+
[/tex]
considering terms containing the difference as a perturbation. Maybe you can show that they only lead to small corrections in the limit you are considering?
 

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What is the spin commutation relation?

The spin commutation relation is a mathematical relationship that describes how the spin operators of two quantum particles interact with each other. It is a fundamental concept in quantum mechanics that helps us understand the behavior of particles with spin.

Why is the spin commutation relation important?

The spin commutation relation is important because it helps us understand the properties of particles with spin, such as electrons, protons, and neutrons. It also plays a crucial role in quantum computing and in the development of new technologies.

What is the mathematical formula for the spin commutation relation?

The mathematical formula for the spin commutation relation is [Sx, Sy] = iħSz, where Sx, Sy, and Sz are the spin operators for the x, y, and z directions, respectively, and ħ is the reduced Planck's constant.

How does the spin commutation relation relate to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?

The spin commutation relation is closely related to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which states that it is impossible to know the exact values of certain pairs of physical properties, such as position and momentum, at the same time. The spin commutation relation is one of the mathematical expressions of this principle.

Can the spin commutation relation be generalized to more than two particles?

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