Can Numerical Simulations Accurately Predict Orbital Precession?

In summary, the conversation discusses whether there would be orbital precession in a literal two body system with one orbiting the other according to Newton's Law of gravitation. The conclusion is that there would be no precession due to the system having a dynamical symmetry, unless there are perturbations that deviate from a 1/r potential. The speaker also suggests checking the total energy of the system in numerical simulations to ensure stability.
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If we had a literal two body system (point masses M and m), with one orbiting the other according to Newton's Law of gravitation, would there be orbital precession? Or would they map out the same ellipse each time?
 
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oq123 said:
If we had a literal two body system (point masses M and m), with one orbiting the other according to Newton's Law of gravitation, would there be orbital precession?
No
 
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Perfect A.T. Thank you! That is what I thought, but running a simulation I wrote, there appeared to be precession. I thought that it was an artifact, but wanted to be sure.
 
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numerical simulations can be unstable - you accumulate errors over time. You should check that the total energy of the system remains constant in your simulations.

Note that any kind of perturbations which deviate from a 1/r potential will lead to precession.
 
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dipole said:
numerical simulations can be unstable - you accumulate errors over time. You should check that the total energy of the system remains constant in your simulations.

Note that any kind of perturbations which deviate from a 1/r potential will lead to precession.

I was somewhat surprised that the simulation would lead to precession, though. I would have expected the orbit to wobble, but it the type of error introduced in these simulations tend to always go the same way...
 

Related to Can Numerical Simulations Accurately Predict Orbital Precession?

1. What is orbital precession?

Orbital precession is the gradual change in the orientation of an orbit over time. This can occur due to several factors, such as gravitational interactions with other bodies or the effects of general relativity.

2. How does orbital precession affect the motion of celestial bodies?

The change in orientation caused by orbital precession can alter the trajectory and speed of celestial bodies, leading to changes in their orbital period and position in the sky. This can have significant impacts on the stability of planetary systems and the long-term evolution of the universe.

3. What is the cause of orbital precession?

The exact cause of orbital precession can vary depending on the specific system. In some cases, it is due to the influence of other bodies in the system, while in others it may be caused by the curvature of space-time itself. Overall, the main contributor to orbital precession is the presence of gravitational forces.

4. Can the rate of orbital precession be predicted?

Yes, the rate of orbital precession can be predicted using mathematical models and simulations. However, due to the complexity of gravitational interactions, these predictions may not always be accurate and can be influenced by various factors such as the distribution of mass in the system.

5. How does the origin of orbital precession relate to our understanding of the universe?

The study of orbital precession is important in our understanding of the laws of gravity and how they affect the motion of celestial bodies. It also provides insights into the dynamics and evolution of planetary systems, and contributes to our understanding of the broader universe and its origins.

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