Can ice actually act as insulation for pipes?

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of ice as pipe insulation in hot and humid environments. The thermal conductivity of ice is significantly lower than traditional insulation, but it may still offer some insulation due to the layer of ice being at 32°F. Calculating the overall heat transfer coefficient would require taking a logarithmic average. However, ice can also hinder heat transfer and cause issues in refrigeration systems.
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Ice as pipe insulation?

OK so this is a problem me and some co-workers have been discussing. We have refrigeration pipelines that are about 15°F. It is very hot and humid here (assume about 90°F and 75% humidity) so condensation often forms on the pipes and freezes. Thinking of it as a pure heat transfer problem (like you would typically do in an undergraduate heat transfer class) I would guess the ice would offer a miniscule amount of "insulation". However, I could also see looking at it as a part of the equilibrium with the air and it not actually changing anything from a heat transfer perspective.

Any thoughts? Suggestions?

FYI: The thermal conductivity of ice is about 2.3 W/m*K and insulation is typically about 0.04 W/m*K
 
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Yes, I'm guessing it would offer insulation. The outside layer of the ice will be at 32 F, so it should slow down the heat transfer rate.

Assuming the temperatures and ice thickness are constant, this would be a fairly simple heat transfer problem.

If there were no ice, you would be concerned only with convection of air. This could be either natural or forced convection (is the air flowing quickly?).

In the ice case, you will have to take a logarithmic average to calculate an "overall" heat transfer coefficient.

You could calculate the heat transfer rates in each if you knew the air "velocity", or if it's just calm air.
 
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Ice can be an unwelcome insulator on pipes. The "old fashioned" domestic fridges had bare coils visible at the top of the fridge space. Over a period of a few weeks these became covered with ice (humidity that had sublimed) and this layer of ice hindered the flow of cold from the coils, leaving the fridge contents warmer despite making the compressor work even harder. The fridge had to be turned off and the ice melted off the coils periodically or it would become a solid mass of ice compromising the fridge's operation.

Of course, ice still sublimes onto the coldest surfaces in today's fridges, but the problem is handled with automatic defrost and better door seals.
 

Related to Can ice actually act as insulation for pipes?

1. What is the purpose of using ice as pipe insulation?

The purpose of using ice as pipe insulation is to prevent heat transfer between the environment and the pipe. Ice has a low thermal conductivity, meaning it does not allow heat to pass through easily. This helps to keep the pipe and its contents at a consistent temperature, protecting it from freezing or overheating.

2. How do you use ice as pipe insulation?

To use ice as pipe insulation, you will need to wrap the pipe with a layer of insulation material, such as foam or fiberglass. Then, you can place a layer of crushed ice on top of the insulation, making sure to cover the entire pipe. Finally, secure the ice in place with a layer of waterproof material, such as plastic wrap or tape.

3. What are the benefits of using ice as pipe insulation?

One of the main benefits of using ice as pipe insulation is its low cost. Ice is a readily available and inexpensive material, making it a cost-effective option for insulating pipes. Additionally, ice is a natural and environmentally friendly option for insulation, as it does not release harmful chemicals or gases into the environment.

4. Are there any drawbacks to using ice as pipe insulation?

One potential drawback of using ice as pipe insulation is its limited effectiveness in extreme temperatures. In very cold environments, the ice may freeze and lose its insulating properties. In hot environments, the ice may melt and become less effective at preventing heat transfer. Additionally, ice may not be suitable for long-term insulation solutions as it will eventually melt and need to be replaced.

5. Can ice be used as pipe insulation for all types of pipes?

Ice can be used as pipe insulation for most types of pipes, including metal, plastic, and PVC pipes. However, it may not be suitable for pipes that carry extremely hot liquids or gases, as the heat may cause the ice to melt too quickly. It is also important to consider the location and environment of the pipes, as extreme temperatures or weather conditions may affect the effectiveness of ice as insulation.

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