Calculating whether the force of a flow rate is sufficient to move a disc

In summary, the question asks if there is enough force from the flow of a 10 inch pipeline to open a free hanging disc weighing 7.3 kg. The flow rate is 2250 gpm at 198 psi, and the minimum flow rate needed to raise the disc is unknown. The force of the disc is 71.613 kg m/s2, and the flow rate is 144.43 kg/s. The next step is to compare the force exerted by the disc and gravity to the force exerted by the flow rate, with the dynamic pressure of the flow and the delta P being important factors. The maximum pressure in the pipe is 290 psig, and the only other effect on the disc is gravity
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Homework Statement



There is a vertical 10 inch pipeline with a disc hanging in it. The disc weighs 7.3 kg. There is a flow coming from the opposite direction (water with density 1017.17 kgm/m3) coming at 2250 gpm at 198 psi in the opposite direction (moving up through a pipe). Is there sufficient force to open the free hanging disc? What is the minimum flow rate (in gpm) needed to raise the disc? Delta P is 5 to 7 psi.

b. how about 1680 gpm at 122 psi ?

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



First I calculated the Force of the disc which would be 7.3kg (9.81 m/s2) = 71.613 kg m/s2

The flow rate of 2250 gpm was converted to 0.142 m3/s

0.142 m3/s * 1017.17 kg/m3 = 144.43 kg/s

The area of the pipe is A=∏r2 , so 78.5398 in2 or 0.05067 m2

I am not sure what the next step would be in comparing a Force (exerted by the disc and gravity) to the Force exerted by a flow rate.
 
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What is the dynamic pressure of the flow? What should it be to open the disk?
 
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The delta P is 5 to 7 psi. and the piping is ASME Class150, so the pressure would never exceed 290 psig in the pipe. The only effects on the disc is gravity.
 

Related to Calculating whether the force of a flow rate is sufficient to move a disc

1. How do you calculate the force of a flow rate?

The force of a flow rate can be calculated by multiplying the density of the fluid by the flow rate squared and then dividing by two.

2. What is the formula for determining if the force is sufficient to move a disc?

The formula for determining if the force is sufficient to move a disc is F = ρQ²/2, where F is the force, ρ is the density of the fluid, and Q is the flow rate.

3. What units should be used for the density and flow rate in the formula?

The density should be in units of mass per volume (e.g. kg/m³) and the flow rate should be in units of volume per time (e.g. m³/s).

4. Can this formula be used for any type of fluid?

Yes, this formula can be used for any type of fluid as long as the density and flow rate are measured in consistent units.

5. What is considered a sufficient force to move a disc?

The force needed to move a disc will depend on various factors such as the size and weight of the disc, the viscosity of the fluid, and the desired speed of movement. It is best to consult with a fluid dynamics expert to determine a specific force requirement for a given scenario.

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