Breaking 10 second barrier too difficult for Whites, Asians and East Africans

[drankin]

A few black men have ran for president, so it's not perfect. And there have been 42 other white men president winners, so they're 1-42. But you're missing the point.

That's interesting. I don't know why the amount of minorities in the Navy Seals matters, but anyway. I disagree with the blacks can run faster than whites comment. I can outrun several black people I know.

The Navy Seal program is hurting for graduates. They are actively trying to recruit minorities and get rid of the image as a white only outfit. Increasing their pool of candidates.

Statistically, it makes no difference what race you are. The percentage of whites that graduate is equal to minorities.

I can run extremely fast, especially when I'm being chased.

 

[turbo]

That's interesting. I don't know why the amount of minorities in the Navy Seals matters, but anyway. I disagree with the blacks can run faster than whites comment. I can outrun several black people I know.

There are more whites than blacks in the US. Are there more white wide receivers in pro football than black ones? Not a scientific study, for sure.

 

[drankin]

There are more whites than blacks in the US. Are there more white wide receivers in pro football than black ones? Not a scientific study, for sure.

I have to agree here. Football used to be a white only sport. In order to break through the racism, you had to be better. Jerry Rice will always be one my all-time favorites.

 

[leroyjenkens]

The Navy Seal program is hurting for graduates. They are actively trying to recruit minorities and get rid of the image as a white only outfit.

I didn't know it was until they said something.

There are more whites than blacks in the US. Are there more white wide receivers in pro football than black ones? Not a scientific study, for sure.

Does that mean that black people are better wide receivers?
Saying it's because they're black is just a cop out reason. It's not a reason. Not saying that's the reason you're giving, but I'm trying to get people to think about it.

There's more whites in the US than blacks, but more blacks in prison. Are they criminals because they're black? If you'd agree with that football analogy, you'd have to agree with the prison analogy.

 

[turbo]

There's more whites in the US than blacks, but more blacks in prison. Are they criminals because they're black? If you'd agree with that football analogy, you'd have to agree with the prison analogy.

No, I don't have to agree with the analogy. When the owners of pro football teams are willing to pay $XM bucks to keep wide receivers, we should ask whether the preponderance of black players in that position is due to physiological differences. Larry Bird was a pretty hot basketball player in his day. Where is the white equivalent of Larry Bird today? The guys who can get up and down the court, get big air, and score are overwhelmingly black, these days. I don't think that it is racist to examine the skills of sports figures statistically.

BTW, I am white (well Native-American/French/Irish) but have dated black ladies in my youth, and my favorite nephew (Sailor of the Year more times than I can count) is married to a beautiful black lady, and they have a daughter who will probably work as a fashion model if her basketball career doesn't work out. Another disclaimer - I am a musician, and have spent much of my time performing with non-white artists. -That's something relatively new to Maine and the Maritimes.

 

[leroyjenkens]

No, I don't have to agree with the analogy.

You would if your only reasoning is based on the prevalence of black wide receivers, which is what you said.
Most wide receivers are black, so black people are inherently better at that position.
Most criminals are black, so black people are inherently law breakers.

Obviously you're not so quick to use that same reasoning in my analogy.

we should ask whether the preponderance of black players in that position is due to physiological differences.

Yes, we should. That's what I'm getting at. "Because they're black" isn't good enough for me. If there's physiological reasons behind it, that's a good reason.

Larry Bird was a pretty hot basketball player in his day. Where is the white equivalent of Larry Bird today? The guys who can get up and down the court, get big air, and score are overwhelmingly black, these days. I don't think that it is racist to examine the skills of sports figures statistically.

Well if you want to get into statistics, what about IQ? Statistically you can find out who's smarter too, but I bet you'll shy away from that.

How many white people are really even interested in playing basketball these days? I think blacks can be just as good as whites at hockey, but they just don't play it.

 

[gravenewworld]

I think the biggest racial disparity would be in swimming. And hockey if that counts.

Jarome Iginla is one of the best RW ever to play hockey in the NHL.

 

[WhoWee]

A few black men have ran for president, so it's not perfect. And there have been 42 other white men president winners, so they're 1-42. But you're missing the point.

I specified running as the Democratic or Republican nominee - meaning not including anyone in the run-up to the conventions.

 

[MissSilvy]

Some jerk always says asinine things like "Well white people are better at X" and then someone will run up, screaming racism, and proclaim that "black people are not only better at X, they can also Y, and Z!" and then someone else joins in and around and around we go.

Who cares? Are you going to tell every runner that's not black to stop practicing and striving to be number one just because there may be a tendency for Africans to excel in that particular area? I'm not a long-distance runner by design: I have short legs, am short, and come from a non-athletic family. I'm certainly not a long-limbed, incredibly athletic Kenyan but that didn't stop me from completing my first marathon. And not a pitiful 'look how she's trying, isn't it just precious?' completion either, I got a pretty damn good time.

People constantly confuse secondary factors with determining factors. Example? People who eat more vegetables run faster. Does this mean the vegetables caused them to run faster? Or perhaps could it mean that people who cared about their health (by eating a healthy diet that includes more vegetables) are more likely to run for sport and exercise, thus running faster than Joe Schmoe who hasn't ran since high school? Does that mean that if a couch potato beefs up on the greens, he'll turn into a marathon runner?

 

[leroyjenkens]

I specified running as the Democratic or Republican nominee - meaning not including anyone in the run-up to the conventions.

That's narrowing it down pretty far.
Failing at becoming a nominee is already a failure. That's like a football team never going to the playoffs and then when they finally do, they win the superbowl. They may have a perfect record in the superbowl, but that's not saying much considering their past. So just stating their perfect record in the superbowl is misleading.

 

[WhoWee]

That's narrowing it down pretty far.
Failing at becoming a nominee is already a failure. That's like a football team never going to the playoffs and then when they finally do, they win the superbowl. They may have a perfect record in the superbowl, but that's not saying much considering their past. So just stating their perfect record in the superbowl is misleading.

Every major track meet has qualifying rounds leading up to the final race. I don't see a difference. In political races, every citizen (of specified legal age and except felons) may enter. Track is also age-restrictive (school competition), but open to everyone.

The people in the final event are the ones qualified to compete - not the millions of eligible participants.

Barack Obama is the only black person to ever compete in the final event as the chosen candidate of either the Democratic or Republican parties. On that basis, qualified black Presidential candidates are a PERFECT 100%.

 

[Borek]

Nearly all the sprinters who have beaten the 10-second barrier are of West African descent (with the exceptions of Australian runner Patrick Johnson and Namibian Frankie Fredericks).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Woronin

Subject is loaded. Even if there are real differences between races, they are politically incorrect. Same can be said about differences between sexes. Trick is, most people hear "different", but they understand "better and worse".

To keep it PF - which field is better - electric, or gravitational?

 

[Borg]

Some jerk always says asinine things like "Well white people are better at X" and then someone will run up, screaming racism, and proclaim that "black people are not only better at X, they can also Y, and Z!" and then someone else joins in and around and around we go.

Who cares? Are you going to tell every runner that's not black to stop practicing and striving to be number one just because there may be a tendency for Africans to excel in that particular area? I'm not a long-distance runner by design: I have short legs, am short, and come from a non-athletic family. I'm certainly not a long-limbed, incredibly athletic Kenyan but that didn't stop me from completing my first marathon. And not a pitiful 'look how she's trying, isn't it just precious?' completion either, I got a pretty damn good time.

People constantly confuse secondary factors with determining factors. Example? People who eat more vegetables run faster. Does this mean the vegetables caused them to run faster? Or perhaps could it mean that people who cared about their health (by eating a healthy diet that includes more vegetables) are more likely to run for sport and exercise, thus running faster than Joe Schmoe who hasn't ran since high school? Does that mean that if a couch potato beefs up on the greens, he'll turn into a marathon runner?

Not too many years ago, I remember hearing how no black man would ever achieve much in the world of golf.

 

[MissSilvy]

Barack Obama is the only black person to ever compete in the final event as the chosen candidate of either the Democratic or Republican parties. On that basis, qualified black Presidential candidates are a PERFECT 100%.

Oh please do get over it. I have no idea what you're trying to do other than a thinly-veiled attempt to twist statistics to prove a non-existent point.

 

[Kurdt]

I'm locking this pending moderation.