Basic Question: What are energy levels, of photons, for example?

In summary, photons can change energy through red or blue shifting and can also be split with a "spontaneous parametric down-converter". Energy levels are most commonly used to describe electrons in orbitals, where they can absorb or emit photons and jump between energy levels. Photons being absorbed can cause an electron to go from a lower to a higher energy level, but once at the higher level, the electron dropping back to a lower level and emitting a photon is a random quantum event. Spontaneous emission occurs because the excited state of the atom is only approximately an energy eigenstate.
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How do particles change energy levels?
I often read of photons manifesting different levels of energy. I know that energy increases as wavelength decreases and frequency increases. Are there other ways particles gain or lose energy? As water boils heat energy is transferred to the water causing water molecules to move faster and to bump into each other with greater momentum, but that energy isn't inherent. Is it frequency alone that transfers energy to particles, or frequency drops that cause them to lose energy?
 
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In the case of photons, yes, as energy increases wavelength decreases and frequency increases. But those are not usually described as "energy levels". There are ways of changing a photon's energy. First by red or blue shift - as when a photon rises or falls through a gravitational field or when the observer is moving towards or away from the transmitter. Photons can also be split with with a "spontaneous parametric down-converter", yielding two photons each with half the energy.

But the term "energy level" is most often used with electrons in orbitals. Such an electron can absorb or (sometimes) emit a photon causing it to jump from one orbital to another with a different energy level.
 
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Thanks for this. Your answer is extremely helpful. I can see that I was actually asking two different questions. Regarding photons, I have never been clear on references to "high energy photons". Would that be a direct reference to frequency, e.g., gamma rays?
And subsumed within my question, I have not understood what causes electrons to jump between energy levels. Is that it, a photon added or lost, or are there also commonly other causes to gains or losses in electron energy levels?
 
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lazarericus said:
I often read of photons manifesting different levels of energy.

This is very vague and general. Can you give a specific example? Or, even better, a specific reference?
 
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lazarericus said:
I know that energy increases as wavelength decreases and frequency increases. Are there other ways particles gain or lose energy?

Wavelength decreasing and frequency increasing are not a way that particles gain energy. They are consequences of particles gaining energy.
 
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lazarericus said:
I have not understood what causes electrons to jump between energy levels. Is that it, a photon added or lost, or are there also commonly other causes to gains or losses in electron energy levels?

Same issue here. Photons being emitted are not causes of electrons going from a higher to a lower energy level. They are consequences of it.

A photon being absorbed is a cause of an electron going from a lower to a higher energy level in an atom; it is the only possible such cause. But once the electron is at the higher energy level, it dropping back to a lower energy level and emitting a photon as it does so is a random quantum event and does not have any particular cause other than the fact that it is possible--a lower energy level is available so there is some probability that the electron will drop back to it.
 
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Thanks, Peter. I appreciate these clarifications. It is points like this that helps a person who knows very little about physics follow the extraordinary discoveries and theories of quantum mechanics and cosmology we are inheritors of today, and to be present day observers of discoveries like the Higgs and gravitational waves, both the result of machines we have only now developed the technology to build.
 
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A photon being absorbed is a cause of an electron going from a lower to a higher energy level in an atom; it is the only possible such cause. But once the electron is at the higher energy level, it dropping back to a lower energy level and emitting a photon as it does so is a random quantum event and does not have any particular cause other than the fact that it is possible--a lower energy level is available so there is some probability that the electron will drop back to it.
The cause of spontaneous emission is that the excited state of the atom is only approximately an energy eigenstate. It was calculated neglecting the coupling to the quantized electromagnetic field, taking into account only the electromagnetic field of the nucleus within which the electrons move. The coupling to the radiation field is treated as a perturbation, usually in the dipole approximation, and this leads to a transition where the electron state changes to a lower (approximate) energy eigenstate and the emission of a photon.
 
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vanhees71 said:
The cause of spontaneous emission is that the excited state of the atom is only approximately an energy eigenstate. It was calculated neglecting the coupling to the quantized electromagnetic field, taking into account only the electromagnetic field of the nucleus within which the electrons move. The coupling to the radiation field is treated as a perturbation, usually in the dipole approximation, and this leads to a transition where the electron state changes to a lower (approximate) energy eigenstate and the emission of a photon.

I know I post it a lot, but for further detail see:
http://www.physics.usu.edu/torre/3700_Spring_2015/What_is_a_photon.pdf

It's really the start of Quantum Field Theory (QFT) and historically why it is necessary. There are even some people that believe QFT in and of itself is the real 'interpretation' of QM:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/9812381767/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I will not give my opinion except it is an interesting take. I have a copy. But as to achieving its goal - you need to make up your own mind.

Thanks
Bill
 

Related to Basic Question: What are energy levels, of photons, for example?

1. What are energy levels?

Energy levels refer to the specific states of energy that an object or particle can have. These levels are quantized, meaning they exist in discrete, distinct values rather than a continuous range. In the context of atoms and molecules, energy levels are associated with the arrangement of electrons around the nucleus.

2. How are energy levels related to photons?

Photons are particles of light that carry energy. The energy of a photon is directly related to its frequency, with higher frequency photons having higher energy levels. In other words, the energy level of a photon is determined by the amount of energy it carries and the frequency of its electromagnetic wave.

3. What is the significance of energy levels in chemistry?

In chemistry, energy levels play a crucial role in understanding the behavior and properties of atoms and molecules. The arrangement of electrons in different energy levels determines the reactivity, stability, and bonding of atoms, which ultimately affects the chemical reactions and properties of substances.

4. How are energy levels of photons measured?

The energy levels of photons can be measured using a device called a spectrometer. This instrument measures the wavelengths of light emitted or absorbed by a substance, which can then be used to calculate the energy levels of the photons. Other methods, such as photoelectric effect and Compton scattering, can also be used to measure the energy levels of photons.

5. Can energy levels of photons be changed?

Yes, the energy levels of photons can be changed through various processes such as absorption, emission, and scattering. When a photon is absorbed by an atom or molecule, it can cause an electron to jump to a higher energy level. Conversely, when an electron moves from a higher energy level to a lower one, a photon is emitted. Scattering, on the other hand, involves the redirection of photons without any change in their energy levels.

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