Are the following 2 equations lorentz invariant?

In summary: So, in summary, the equations \partialμ\phi\partialμ\phi and \partialμ\partialμ\phi with \phi(x) a scalar field are both Lorentz invariant. This is because the Lorentz transformation matrix, \Lambda^\mu_{\mu'}, is the inverse of \Lambda^{\mu'}_{\mu}, and for a Lorentz transformation, this matrix is also equal to its inverse, ensuring invariance. However, it is important to note the proper order of indices in the Lorentz transformation matrix.
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Dreak
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[itex]\partial[/itex]μ[itex]\phi[/itex][itex]\partial[/itex]μ[itex]\phi[/itex]

and

[itex]\partial[/itex]μ[itex]\partial[/itex]μ[itex]\phi[/itex]

with [itex]\phi[/itex](x) a scalar field
 
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Suppose ##\partial_{\mu'}=\Lambda^\mu_{\mu'}\partial_{\mu}## and ##\partial^{\mu'}=\Lambda^{\mu'}_{\mu}\partial^{\mu}##.
Then
##\partial_{\mu'}\partial^{\mu'}\phi=\Lambda^\mu_{\mu'}\partial_{\mu} \Lambda^{\mu'}_{\mu}\partial^{\mu}\phi=\Lambda^\mu_{\mu'} \Lambda^{\mu'}_{\mu}\partial_{\mu}\partial^{\mu}\phi##.

So the scalar is invariant if ##\Lambda^\mu_{\mu'}## is the inverse of ## \Lambda^{\mu'}_{\mu}##.

Now, ##\Lambda^\mu_{\mu'}## is not a tensor but a transformation matrix. It so happens that the inverse of the LT is found by reversing the sign of the boost velocity. This operation ##\Lambda_b^{b'}=\eta_{ba}\Lambda_{a'}^a\eta^{a'b'}## also reverses the sign. So for the Lorentz transformation ##\Lambda^\mu_{\mu'}## is the inverse of ## \Lambda^{\mu'}_{\mu}##.
 
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So the answer is yes?!
I actually thought the second one was lorentzinvariant because:

[itex]\partial[/itex]μ[itex]\partial[/itex]μ is the d'Alembertian which I thought was Lorentzinvariant, while a scalar field is always Lorentzinvariant?

And what about the other equation? I'm not sure what the influence of the second scalar field in the equation yields.
 
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Dreak said:
So the answer is yes?!
I actually thought the second one was lorentzinvariant because:

[itex]\partial[/itex]μ[itex]\partial[/itex]μ is the d'Alembertian which I thought was Lorentz invariant, while a scalar field is always Lorentz invariant?

And what about the other equation? I'm not sure what the influence of the second scalar field in the equation yields.
The answer is 'yes' for both equations. If you write out the first expression in terms of the transformed coords, there is another cancellation of ##\Lambda^\mu_{\mu'}\Lambda_\mu^{\mu'}##.

Rank-0 tensors ( ie no indexes) are always invariant. Differentiating a rank-0 tensor creates a new tensor with rank-1. Scalars formed by contractions of tensors are invariant.
 
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Thank you very much! :)
 
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One should, however, be a bit more careful with the indices in the Lorentz transformations and write them also with proper order. Let
[tex]{\Lambda^{\mu}}_{\nu}[/tex]
the Lorentz-transformation matrix for contravariant vector/tensor components, i.e.,
[tex]x'^{\mu}={\Lambda^{\mu}}_{\nu} x^{\nu}.[/tex]
A Lorentz transform obeys
[tex]\eta_{\mu \nu} {L^{\mu}}_{\rho} {L^{\nu}}_{\sigma}=\eta_{\rho \sigma},[/tex]
or
[tex]\eta_{\mu \nu} \eta^{\rho \alpha} {L^{\mu}}_{\rho} {L^{\nu}}_{\sigma}=\delta_{\sigma}^{\alpha}.[/tex]
This implies
[tex]\eta^{\rho \alpha} \eta_{\mu \nu} {L^{\mu}}_{\rho}={(L^{-1})^{\alpha}}_{\nu}={L_{\mu}}^{\alpha}.[/tex]
 
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vanhees71 said:
One should, however, be a bit more careful with the indices in the Lorentz transformations and write them also with proper order. Let
[tex]{\Lambda^{\mu}}_{\nu}[/tex]

...
Thanks for clarifying that.
 

Related to Are the following 2 equations lorentz invariant?

1. What is the meaning of Lorentz invariance?

Lorentz invariance is a fundamental principle in physics that states that the laws of physics should remain the same for all observers in uniform motion. This means that the laws of physics should not change when viewed from different frames of reference that are moving at a constant velocity with respect to each other.

2. What are the two equations being referred to in this question?

The two equations in question are likely the Lorentz transformations, which describe how measurements of time and space differ between two frames of reference moving at a constant velocity with respect to each other. These equations are a fundamental part of special relativity.

3. How do you determine if an equation is Lorentz invariant?

An equation is considered Lorentz invariant if it remains unchanged when transformed from one frame of reference to another using the Lorentz transformations. This means that the mathematical form of the equation remains the same regardless of the observer's frame of reference.

4. Why is Lorentz invariance important in physics?

Lorentz invariance is a crucial concept in physics because it allows us to make predictions and describe physical phenomena in a consistent and universal way. It forms the basis of special relativity and is essential for understanding the behavior of objects moving at high speeds or in strong gravitational fields.

5. Can an equation be partially Lorentz invariant?

No, an equation must be fully Lorentz invariant to accurately describe physical phenomena. If an equation is only partially Lorentz invariant, it means that it is not valid in all frames of reference and cannot accurately describe the observed behavior of objects in the universe.

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