Are Hilbert spaces uniquely defined for a given system?

In summary, the conversation discusses the uniqueness of Hilbert spaces for a given physical system, particularly in relation to the Schrödinger and Heisenberg formulations of quantum mechanics. The Hilbert space is what defines the physical system and it must be uniquely defined for each system. The Hilbert space of one-particle states consists of square integrable functions from \mathbb R^3 to \mathbb C and the time-dependent wavefunction is a curve in this space.
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diegzumillo
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Hi there!

Repeating the question on the title: Are Hilbert spaces uniquely defined for a given system?

I started to think about this when I was reading about Schrödinger and Heisenberg pictures/formulations. From my understanding, you can describe a system analyzing the time dependent state defined by [tex]\left\vert \psi \left( t\right) \right\rangle =U\left( t,t_{0}\right)\left\vert \psi \left( t_{0}\right) \right\rangle[/tex], while keeping the observables time-independent (wich would be the Schrödinger picture). And this is totally equivalent to description of the system by a time-independent state, and observables defined by [tex] A^{\prime }\left( t\right) =U^{\dagger }\left( t,t_{0}\right) AU\left(t,t_{0}\right) [/tex]. (Heisenberg picture) However, I don't think it's the same Hilbert space! In the first one, the elements of the space are time dependent, while in the other they're not.

Am I making any sense? :rolleyes:
 
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The short answer is "yes". The Hilbert space is what defines what physical system we're talking about, so it must be uniquely defined (up to isomorphisms of course) for each physical system.

The Hilbert space of one-particle states consists of (equivalence classes of) square integrable functions from [itex]\mathbb R^3[/itex] (not [itex]\mathbb R^4[/itex]) into [itex]\mathbb C[/itex]. Your [itex]|\psi(t)\rangle[/itex] is a member of that space, but the map [itex]t\mapsto|\psi(t)\rangle[/itex] (the "time dependent wavefunction") is a curve in that space.
 
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Right. Thanks Fredrik!
That clear things up :)
 

Related to Are Hilbert spaces uniquely defined for a given system?

What is a Hilbert space?

A Hilbert space is a mathematical concept that is used to describe the mathematical properties of certain types of physical systems. It is a vector space that is equipped with an inner product, which allows for the measurement of the length and angle of vectors within the space.

How is a Hilbert space uniquely defined for a given system?

A Hilbert space is uniquely defined for a given system by its basis vectors, which are a set of linearly independent vectors that span the space. These basis vectors are determined by the specific physical system being studied, and they are used to describe the states of the system within the Hilbert space.

Can two different systems have the same Hilbert space?

No, two different systems cannot have the same Hilbert space. Each physical system has its own unique set of basis vectors and therefore its own unique Hilbert space. Even if two systems have similar properties, their Hilbert spaces will differ due to the underlying differences in their physical states.

How is a Hilbert space related to quantum mechanics?

Quantum mechanics uses Hilbert spaces to describe the states of particles and systems on a microscopic scale. The states of a quantum system are represented by vectors in a Hilbert space, and the operators in quantum mechanics are used to manipulate these vectors and describe the behavior of the system over time.

Are Hilbert spaces only used in quantum mechanics?

No, Hilbert spaces are used in many areas of mathematics and physics beyond quantum mechanics. They are commonly used in functional analysis, harmonic analysis, and partial differential equations. They are also used to describe physical systems in classical mechanics and statistical mechanics.

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