About the constraint equations of a pulley

In summary, the pulley to which mass B is attached, works as a lever, with a mechanical advantage of 2. The old "golden rule" of mechanics states that whatever you gain in force you lose in displacement.
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See the solved example as shown in the image. I don't understand how can we write S(A)=2S(B) since integrating V(A)=2V(B) will give us an extra unknown constant and the work done by friction will depend on it.
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Work-Energy theorem & constraint equations.
See the solved example as shown in the image. I don't understand how can we write S(A)=2S(B) since integrating V(A)=2V(B) will give us an extra unknown constant and the work done by friction will depend on it. I found the relation 2S(B) + S(A) = const. (somebody confirm if this is right?) so isn't it technically wrong to say that S(A)=2S(B)?
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##S_A## and ##S_B## are displacements of the masses. ##x_1## and ##x_4## are positions of the masses.
In particular, ##S_A = -\Delta x_4## and ##S_B = \Delta x_1##.

From your equation ##2x_1+x_4 = \rm const##, derive a relation between ##\Delta x_1## and ##\Delta x_4##.
 
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"I don't understand how can we write S(A)=2S(B) since integrating V(A)=2V(B) will give us an extra unknown constant "
No it won't. You have an obvious boundary condition that , when V(A)=0 , then V(B)=0.
 
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@TSny, thank you very much for clarifying!
 
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nish95 said:
I don't understand how can we write S(A)=2S(B)
The pulley to which mass B is attached, works as a lever.
Imagine the fulcrum of that lever located at the point where the right-hand vertical section of rope meets the pulley, the left-hand section of vertical rope lifting the weight B, which is located exactly midway between those two vertical sections of rope.
The mechanical advantage of such lever is 2.
The old "golden rule" of mechanics states that whatever you gain in force you lose in displacement.

Please, see:
http://www.technologystudent.com/gears1/pulley9.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_advantage#Block_and_tackle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_machine#Ideal_simple_machine

I believe that the relations you have established among the different Xs are incorrect, except the one that shows that the total length of the rope ##(X_2+X_3+X_4)## remains constant.
 

Related to About the constraint equations of a pulley

1. What are constraint equations in the context of a pulley?

Constraint equations in the context of a pulley refer to the mathematical relationships that describe the motion of the pulley and the objects connected to it. These equations are based on the principles of mechanics and can be used to analyze the forces and accelerations involved in the system.

2. How are constraint equations used in pulley systems?

Constraint equations are used in pulley systems to determine the motion and forces involved in the system. They can be used to calculate the tension in the ropes or cables, the acceleration of the objects, and the angular velocity of the pulley.

3. What are the main types of constraint equations used in pulley systems?

The main types of constraint equations used in pulley systems are the equations of motion, which describe the relationship between the forces and accelerations in the system, and the equations of equilibrium, which describe the balance of forces acting on the pulley and the connected objects.

4. How do constraint equations affect the mechanical advantage of a pulley system?

The constraint equations of a pulley system can be used to determine the mechanical advantage, which is the ratio of the output force to the input force. By analyzing the forces and accelerations involved in the system, we can determine the mechanical advantage and how it is affected by different configurations of the pulley system.

5. Are there any limitations to using constraint equations in pulley systems?

While constraint equations are useful in analyzing pulley systems, they have some limitations. They assume ideal conditions, such as frictionless pulleys and ropes, which may not always be the case in real-world scenarios. Additionally, they may not account for other factors such as the weight of the pulley itself or the elasticity of the ropes.

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