2nd Order ODE Contradiction ?

In summary, the conversation discusses solving a 2nd order ODE using Laplace transforms and obtaining two different solutions for different values of k. The method is straightforward and involves simplifying the transforms to obtain the solutions.
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tade
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2nd Order ODE "Contradiction"?

To solve a 2nd order ODE, we can follow the steps as shown below. (Image 2 is a continuation from Image 1, apologies for the size difference.) :rolleyes:

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The method to obtain the solution is straightforward.

Let's say

[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=ky[/tex]

If k = -1, a possible solution is y = sin x. If k = 1, a possible solution is y = e^x.How do we obtain these two different solutions from one straightforward method?
 
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tade said:
Let's say

[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=ky[/tex]

If k = -1, a possible solution is y = sin x. If k = 1, a possible solution is y = e^x.


How do we obtain these two different solutions from one straightforward method?
I think Laplace transforms look good for this.

$$\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=ky\implies\mathcal{L}\{\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}\}(s)=k \mathcal{L}\{y\}(s)\\ s^2\mathcal{L}\{y\}(s)-\left.\frac{dy}{dx}\right|_0-sy(0)=k\mathcal{L}\{y\}(s) \\ \mathcal{L}\{y\}(s)=\frac{\frac{dy}{dx}|_0+sy(0)}{s^2-k}\\y(x)=\mathcal{L}^{-1}\left\{\frac{\frac{dy}{dx}|_0+sy(0)}{s^2-k}\right\}(x).$$
With a bit of simplifying, this comes down to ##y(x)=c_1e^{\sqrt{k}x}+c_2e^{-\sqrt{k}x}##.

Note that ##\sin{x}=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2i}##. :wink:
 
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Mandelbroth said:
With a bit of simplifying, this comes down to ##y(x)=c_1e^{\sqrt{k}x}+c_2e^{-\sqrt{k}x}##.

Note that ##\sin{x}=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2i}##. :wink:

That's pretty neat.
 

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What is a 2nd Order ODE Contradiction?

A 2nd Order ODE (Ordinary Differential Equation) Contradiction occurs when a solution to a 2nd order ODE does not satisfy the equation. This means that the solution does not fit the given initial conditions or the equation itself is incorrect.

What are the causes of a 2nd Order ODE Contradiction?

A 2nd Order ODE Contradiction can be caused by errors in the initial conditions, mistakes in the equation, or the presence of non-physical solutions. It can also occur when the ODE is not properly classified or when the solution is not continuous.

How can a 2nd Order ODE Contradiction be avoided?

To avoid a 2nd Order ODE Contradiction, it is important to carefully check the initial conditions and the equation for any mistakes. It is also helpful to classify the ODE correctly and ensure that the solution is physically meaningful and continuous.

What are the implications of a 2nd Order ODE Contradiction?

A 2nd Order ODE Contradiction can have serious consequences, as it can lead to incorrect predictions and results in scientific studies and applications. It can also cause confusion and lead to wasted time and resources in trying to solve the contradiction.

How can a 2nd Order ODE Contradiction be resolved?

If a 2nd Order ODE Contradiction is encountered, it is important to carefully review the initial conditions and the equation for any errors. It may also be helpful to consult with other experts in the field for further insight and potential solutions. In some cases, the ODE may need to be reclassified or a different approach may need to be taken to find a valid solution.

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