242.10.3.27 using the geometric formula of a sum

In summary, the conversation discusses the evaluation and rewriting of the infinite series $S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}3^{-3j}$, which can be rewritten as $S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}27^{j-1}$ using the geometric formula $\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}=\frac{a}{1-r}, |r|<1$. To get the answer of $\frac{1}{26}$, we can use $a=\frac{1}{27}$ and $r=\frac{1}{27}$ in the formula. There is also a discussion about the correct formula to use, with
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$\tiny{242.10.3.27}$
evaluate
$$S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}3^{-3j}=$$
rewrite
$$S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty} 27^{j-1}$$
using the geometric formula
$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$
how do we get $a$ and $r$ to get the answer of $\frac{1}{26}$
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karush said:
$\tiny{242.10.3.27}$
evaluate
$$S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}3^{-3j}=$$
rewrite
$$S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty} 27^{j-1}$$
using the geometric formula
$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$
how do we get $a$ and $r$ to get the answer of $\frac{1}{26}$
☕

there are a couple of issues here
$S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}3^{-3j}=$
=> $S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty} 27^{-j}$
$= \sum_{j=1}^{\infty} (\frac{1}{27})^j$
$= \frac{1}{27}\sum_{j=0}^{\infty} (\frac{1}{27})^j$ (kinldy note that the sum index is from 0 and not 1)
in the above $a= \frac{1}{27}$ and $r =\frac{1}{27}$
= $\frac{1}{27}( \frac{1}{1-\frac{1}{27}})= \frac{1}{26}$
 
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thanks that explained things...😎
 
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$\tiny{242.10.3.27}$
$\text{evaluate}\\$
$$S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}3^{-3j}=$$
$\text{rewrite} \\$
$$\displaystyle
S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty} 27^{-j}
=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}\left(\frac{1}{27}\right)^{j}
=\frac{1}{27}\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}\left(\frac{1}{27}\right)^{j}$$
$\text{using the geometric formula }$
$$\displaystyle
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}
=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$
$\text{then }$ $a=\frac{1}{27}$ $\text{ and } r=\frac{1}{27} \\$
$$S_j= \frac{1}{27}\left[\frac{1}{1-\frac{1}{27}}\right]=\frac{1}{26}$$
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karush said:
$\tiny{242.10.3.27}$
$\text{evaluate}\\$
$$S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}3^{-3j}=$$
$\text{rewrite} \\$
$$\displaystyle
S_j=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty} 27^{-j}
=\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}\left(\frac{1}{27}\right)^{j}
=\frac{1}{27}\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}\left(\frac{1}{27}\right)^{j}$$
$\text{using the geometric formula }$
$$\displaystyle
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}
=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$
$\text{then }$ $a=\frac{1}{27}$ $\text{ and } r=\frac{1}{27} \\$
$$S_j= \frac{1}{27}\left[\frac{1}{1-\frac{1}{27}}\right]=\frac{1}{26}$$
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above is right except that
$$\displaystyle
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}
=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$

should be
$$\displaystyle
\sum_{0}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}
=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$
 
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kaliprasad said:
above is right except that
$$\displaystyle
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}
=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$

should be
$$\displaystyle
\sum_{0}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}
=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$
this is from the textbook
 

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This is what W|A returns (for $|r|<1$):

\(\displaystyle \sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\left(ar^{k-1}\right)=\frac{a}{r(1-r)}\)

\(\displaystyle \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\left(ar^{k-1}\right)=\frac{a}{1-r}\)

However, these imply:

\(\displaystyle \sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\left(ar^{k}\right)=\frac{a}{1-r}\)

\(\displaystyle \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\left(ar^{k}\right)=\frac{ar}{1-r}\)
 
  • #8
kaliprasad said:
above is right except that
$$\displaystyle
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}
=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$

should be
$$\displaystyle
\sum_{0}^{\infty}ar^{n-1}
=\frac{a}{1-r}, \left| r \right|<1$$
No, that would be for [tex]r^n[tex] not [tex]r^{n-1}[/tex].
 

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The geometric formula for summing 242.10.3.27 is (a1(1-r^n))/(1-r), where a1 is the first term, r is the common ratio, and n is the number of terms.

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3. Can the geometric formula be used for any sequence?

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4. How can the geometric formula be applied in real-life situations?

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